frequent crashes under 7.0.1-RC3

[Richmond]

On 12/15/2014 03:01 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Richmond <richmondmathewson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 14/12/14 18:30, Dr. Hawkins wrote:
>>
>> If I do roll back, though, it's not going to be to wait for 7, but to get
>>> by until I figure out how to transfer my effort to another platform
>>> entirely.
>>>
>> "wait for 7" sounds odd as we, supposedly, have "7" as a done deal already.
>
> "supposedly" being the magic word.  Calling any 7 to date "beta" would be
> geerous, at best.
>
>
>
>> Frankly, If I could roll back the clock two and a half years, I'd choose
>>
>>> something else.  Supercard 1.5 and Hypercard 2.0, with the addition of
>>> database support, could have handled what I need (I can say that with
>>> certainty because I actually implemented essentially the same program on
>>> both twenty years ago, using cards in a stack as the "database").
>>>
>> I think your 'gripes' are because you have got onto the "constantly
>> upgrading"
>> conveyor belt, which, in my experience causes little but grief.
>>
>> My production work takes place on a 2005 G5 Macintosh running Livecode 4.5
>> on Mac OS 10.5.8.
>>
>> I do my "Livecode playtime" on a machine running a recent Linux version
>> and all Open Source versions of LC
>> up to and including 7.0.1 rc3 - but I certainly would NOT transfer all my
>> Pismo, Grendel and Devawriter code
>> to anything more than 4.5 which has served me extremely well for the last
>> 5 years.
>>
> I have no "playtime" for livecode; this is pure production work, replacing
> something that worked for my own use.  *I* can do more with a spreadsheet
> than I ever could with livecode or another pure programming platform; I
> bought livecoe to implement for other people.  My purposes are purely
> commercial, and I had no qualms about the $1k/year for the developer
> license & suppot.
>
> And then with kickstarterer, the working and stable version--for which I'm
> licensed forever--is pretty much abandoned; end of life from before the
> extra years.
>
>
>
>> I am well aware that most people need something more contemporary than
>> what I use,
>> but my advice would be to find something that works (e.g. LC 5.5) on a
>> system that works, and
>> stick with it as long as possible.
>>
> At which point there's no reason for my having continued with newer
> licenses . . .

Indeed. And if enough people don't pay for commercial licenses RunRev might
start to "feel the pinch" and pull themselves together to consolidate an
existing release rather than pelting hell-for-leather towards the 
"bright new future".

The other alternative is to keep selling a version 'down' in the fives 
and only releasing stuff
in the sevens as Open Source until they have tuned things to a 
commercial standard: but
that is going to cripple RunRev's cashflow.

>
> If livecode wants to be  *commercial* license rather than a toy, it needs
> to put out commercial grade software.
>
>

'Tis true, me dear!

Richmond.