AW: OT: Mac installer rights?

Tiemo Hollmann TB toolbook at kestner.de
Mon Dec 15 03:03:19 EST 2014


Hi Mark,
I am using installer maker 1.8.7. Where do I find the admin option? Is it an option in the installer maker, or do you mean right click the finished installer? In my case it doesn't asks me for admin credentials.
And just for my interest. Is there a technical explanation for different rights/behaviour if you copy files manually with the same user and in the same dir from a dmg file or start an installer to let do it for you?
Thanks, Tiemo


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Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Mark Schonewille
Gesendet: Samstag, 13. Dezember 2014 18:17
An: How to use LiveCode
Betreff: Re: OT: Mac installer rights?

Hi Tiemo,

I assume your installer has been signed. Installer Maker's Help section is far from complete, but there is a suggestion there about starting the app with admin rights. You might try that.

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On 12/13/2014 18:02, J. Landman Gay wrote:
> The user probably has their security settings set to the default,  which disallows installation except from the Mac App Store. The second level of security allows third party installations but only if they are code signed. The third level allows anything.
>
> You can tell the user to change the setting to allow installation from anywhere,. For a novice user this can compromise the security of the machine, so they may want to set it back to the default after installation.
>
> On December 13, 2014 5:10:00 AM CST, Tiemo Hollmann TB <toolbook at kestner.de> wrote:
>> Hi Jacque,
>> thanks for your comments. That is funny, because I am using Mark  
>>Schonewilles Installer Maker since years without any problems and also  
>>with  this product it installs my LC prog as expected on all of my 
>>clients  Macs from OS X 10.5 to 10.10. This is the only one (on 
>>10.9.5), where this  phenomenon happened, so I think there must be 
>>something being messed up  on  the machine.
>> Tiemo
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com] Im 
>> Auftrag von J. Landman Gay
>> Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Dezember 2014 19:22
>> An: How to use LiveCode
>> Betreff: Re: OT: Mac installer rights?
>>
>> On 12/12/2014, 10:08 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
>>> My question to the Mac guys: What is the difference concerning
>> writing
>>> rights when the same user creates manually folders and files or lets 
>>> an installer do that for him? Is there on Mac something similar as 
>>> on
>>
>>> Windows like "run as Admin" to try to lift the user rights? Or is
>> here
>>> something completely messed up? I have never experienced this before.
>>
>> It is part of the Mac OS sandboxing, which prevents software from 
>> writing files to locations outside of its own folders. This prevents 
>> malware from writing to disk in areas it does not control.
>>
>> Except for certain drivers and extensions, OS X does not use 
>> installers, and users do not expect one. The user simply drags the 
>> app bundle to the applications folder. You can zip the app if you 
>> like, and the user can unzip it and drag it into the folder. Or 
>> commonly apps ship in dmg files (a virtual device image.) These are 
>> easy to create with various Mac utilities such as Drop DMG. Most 
>> users are familiar with dmg files.
>

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