HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

René Micout rmicout at online.fr
Wed Mar 18 08:00:13 EDT 2009


Hello Luis,
I am interessed by this project
René from Paris

Le 18 mars 09 à 12:36, Luis a écrit :

> Hiya,
>
> If there isn't going to be an 'internal' version forthcoming from  
> RunRev anytime soon, why not create a user group bounty system for  
> an external?
>
> - Anyone up to the task would propose their 'bounty'
> OR
> - A community set bounty which developers would then vie for
>
> These could be community, developer or RunRev managed.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Luis.
>
>
> On 18 Mar 2009, at 10:53, Judy Perry wrote:
>
>> I certainly wasn't offended.
>> As for the age of the "young children," well, mine are nearly 8.   
>> They
>> desperately want a cell phone but aren't getting one anytime  
>> soon.  ;-)
>>
>> Yes, they *would* notice latency.
>>
>> As you say, Kay, in the old days when we all weren't quite so long  
>> in tooth,
>> we could all roll our own.  In HC, I could roll my own tunes  
>> without having
>> to know the midi spec and with only knowing how to read  
>> sheetmusic.  And I
>> could have sound channels.  And without having to use Player Objects,
>> layered or not.  Without latency. Without QuickTime.  On the sorts  
>> of older
>> machines I trust my wee ones with (not mine certainly!).
>>
>> And now, none of that's possible and FOR NO GOOD REASON.  No good  
>> reason.
>>
>> Again, the problem with MIDI is this:  (a) it requires learning  
>> the MIDI
>> spec; (b) it requires QT dependency.  It isn't clean and elegant  
>> and it
>> isn't internal.  And it still doesn't really deal with the sound  
>> channel
>> issue.
>>
>> But I'll gratefully accept and support and help pay for an  
>> external that
>> does help in these areas.
>>
>> Judy
>> http://revined.blogspot.com
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Kay C Lan  
>> <lan.kc.macmail at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Richard Gaskin <
>>> ambassador at fourthworld.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> While referring to HC's notation as "door bell jingles" may sound
>>> derisive,
>>>> these days when people are accustomed to richer sound design,  
>>>> it's not an
>>>> entirely unfair characterization to the modern ear.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nice pun;-) And certainly I didn't mean to offend anyone, as I  
>>> think I
>>> said,
>>> "I'm wondering", as in I'm trying to figure this out, I've used  
>>> sound files
>>> in Rev and have been more than happy with the results; I just  
>>> can't seem to
>>> grasp what it is I'm missing out on.
>>>
>>> Three phones ago I could create my own ringtone by typing in HC like
>>> notation and saving the file. The web was full of text snippets  
>>> of the
>>> appropriate code for the appropriate make of phone so you could  
>>> quickly
>>> type
>>> in and have you own personal version of "rape of the moonlight  
>>> sonata" ;-)
>>>
>>> Today I can't even find those text snippets anymore because  
>>> everything has
>>> moved onto mp3 files. Three phones ago I could roll my own*,  
>>> today it's not
>>> so simple - you still can, but you need to use some third party  
>>> software
>>> (GarageBand) to create your mp3 - and it certainly wont sound as  
>>> good as an
>>> mp3 of a real artist. Most people will see this as progress, some  
>>> may
>>> consider they've lost something.
>>>
>>> Judy's reference to children not likely noticing the sound quality I
>>> suspect
>>> must be referring to very young children because all the fifth  
>>> graders at
>>> my
>>> wife's school all have the latest pop songs blasting out their  
>>> iPhones when
>>> somebody rings, they seem to be very image concscious.
>>>
>>> If the children are that young not to notice the quality, then  
>>> isn't it
>>> possible that they wouldn't notice the latency mentioned with the  
>>> MIDI
>>> solution.
>>>
>>> Still wondering why external, as put forward by Richard way back  
>>> at the
>>> beginning, isn't the correct answer?
>>>
>>> *Roll my own in this case refers to creating an original  
>>> ringtone, not the
>>> art/crime of splicing up a file in your iTunes library or copy/ 
>>> sharing such
>>> a file.
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