By popular demand - Extend access to LC Classic IDEs BEYOND 2027!

[Heather Laine]

I don't know what you think we are trying to hide.

Do you want to discuss your annual takings on this list? Or the number and needs of your clients? I don't think its relevant to the readers here nor any of their business. We've explained the new licensing, exhaustively. We've said we want to help existing customers. We've said there is a program to help you migrate, on a case by case basis. 

If you want to take us up on that, please do. If not, well  that is your decision. 

Please take this off list. This thread is not helpful and its time for it to stop.

Best Regards,

Heather
List mom. On the Use LiveCode list.


Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
LiveCode Ltd
www.livecode.com



> On 2 Aug 2024, at 18:34, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> sunlight is the greatest disinfectant.
> these are conversations that should be held in the open.
> 
> On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 1:10 PM Heather Laine via use-livecode <
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> I understand busy. Sometimes we are so busy chopping down trees we cannot
>> see the wood.
>> 
>> You have a specific situation. The people on this list cannot help you
>> resolve it. Talking about it on this list and indeed reading the long
>> conversations on this list is using up your precious time. Maybe taking
>> half an hour to talk about it direct with us would resolve it and
>> potentially save you... I have no idea how long rewriting your apps.
>> 
>> But its entirely up to you.
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> Heather
>> 
>> Heather Laine
>> Customer Services Manager
>> LiveCode Ltd
>> www.livecode.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Aug 2024, at 17:21, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> heather, as i told you, at the time, i am busy running multiple
>> companies.
>>> i don't have time for pitches.
>>> i asked for you to send me the information so that i could review it,
>> ahead
>>> of a call. that request was declined.
>>> if the pricing remains untenable, we will be rewriting apps and exiting.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 12:01 PM Roger Guay via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> If this is the conclusion that you come to, then I failed to make my
>> case.
>>>> Sorry!
>>>> 
>>>> I thank Kevin for keeping this amazing tool going for so many years and
>>>> want him to succeed in the future.
>>>> 
>>>> Roger
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 2, 2024, at 8:17 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
>>>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> You cannot mean that you want him to go bankrupt so that you can
>>>> maintain your hobby!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 2, 2024, at 8:17 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
>>>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kevin has clearly made the point that it has become financially
>>>> untenable to continue with the classic licensing model. You cannot mean
>>>> that you want him to go bankrupt so that you can maintain your hobby!
>> You
>>>> are asking him for what he cannot give. It only remains then for all of
>> us
>>>> to decide what we can and cannot accept.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob S
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 2, 2024, at 7:59 AM, Roger Guay via use-livecode <
>>>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I too am in the "Clasic Is For Me Crowd”
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Been here since Metacard
>>>>> - Use LC strictly as a hobby
>>>>> - LC is extremely important to me as a hobby
>>>>> - Have created hundreds of tools, utilities, simulations, fun things
>>>> just for shear enjoyment and mental exercise
>>>>> - Have frequent internet problems that interfere with cloud computing
>>>>> - Have participated in every fundraising campagne
>>>>> - Frequently contributed to Example Stacks including Alien Civilization
>>>> Detection simulation
>>>>> 
>>>>> I beg you, Kevin, don’t take this away from us
>>>>> 
>>>>> Roger
>>>>> 
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