By popular demand - Extend access to LC Classic IDEs BEYOND 2027!

[Bob Sneidar]

Yup. +100

> On Aug 2, 2024, at 10:45 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't know what you think we are trying to hide.
> 
> Do you want to discuss your annual takings on this list? Or the number and needs of your clients? I don't think its relevant to the readers here nor any of their business. We've explained the new licensing, exhaustively. We've said we want to help existing customers. We've said there is a program to help you migrate, on a case by case basis. 
> 
> If you want to take us up on that, please do. If not, well  that is your decision. 
> 
> Please take this off list. This thread is not helpful and its time for it to stop.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Heather
> List mom. On the Use LiveCode list.
> 
> 
> Heather Laine
> Customer Services Manager
> LiveCode Ltd
> www.livecode.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2 Aug 2024, at 18:34, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> sunlight is the greatest disinfectant.
>> these are conversations that should be held in the open.
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 1:10 PM Heather Laine via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I understand busy. Sometimes we are so busy chopping down trees we cannot
>>> see the wood.
>>> 
>>> You have a specific situation. The people on this list cannot help you
>>> resolve it. Talking about it on this list and indeed reading the long
>>> conversations on this list is using up your precious time. Maybe taking
>>> half an hour to talk about it direct with us would resolve it and
>>> potentially save you... I have no idea how long rewriting your apps.
>>> 
>>> But its entirely up to you.
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> Heather
>>> 
>>> Heather Laine
>>> Customer Services Manager
>>> LiveCode Ltd
>>> www.livecode.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Aug 2024, at 17:21, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> heather, as i told you, at the time, i am busy running multiple
>>> companies.
>>>> i don't have time for pitches.
>>>> i asked for you to send me the information so that i could review it,
>>> ahead
>>>> of a call. that request was declined.
>>>> if the pricing remains untenable, we will be rewriting apps and exiting.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 12:01 PM Roger Guay via use-livecode <
>>>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> If this is the conclusion that you come to, then I failed to make my
>>> case.
>>>>> Sorry!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I thank Kevin for keeping this amazing tool going for so many years and
>>>>> want him to succeed in the future.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Roger
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 2, 2024, at 8:17 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
>>>>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You cannot mean that you want him to go bankrupt so that you can
>>>>> maintain your hobby!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 2, 2024, at 8:17 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
>>>>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kevin has clearly made the point that it has become financially
>>>>> untenable to continue with the classic licensing model. You cannot mean
>>>>> that you want him to go bankrupt so that you can maintain your hobby!
>>> You
>>>>> are asking him for what he cannot give. It only remains then for all of
>>> us
>>>>> to decide what we can and cannot accept.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bob S
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 2, 2024, at 7:59 AM, Roger Guay via use-livecode <
>>>>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I too am in the "Clasic Is For Me Crowd”
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Been here since Metacard
>>>>>> - Use LC strictly as a hobby
>>>>>> - LC is extremely important to me as a hobby
>>>>>> - Have created hundreds of tools, utilities, simulations, fun things
>>>>> just for shear enjoyment and mental exercise
>>>>>> - Have frequent internet problems that interfere with cloud computing
>>>>>> - Have participated in every fundraising campagne
>>>>>> - Frequently contributed to Example Stacks including Alien Civilization
>>>>> Detection simulation
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I beg you, Kevin, don’t take this away from us
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Roger
>>>>>> 
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