Training the AI to write better LiveCode

Richard Gaskin ambassador at
Wed Jan 25 13:49:28 EST 2023

Kevin Miller wrote:

 > Richard Gaskin wrote:
 >> The tech is happening. The opportunity still available for
 >> this one early moment may be to shape the ethics of ownership
 >> and value surrounding it.
 > Ethics are very important to me as you know.

I do. I would not question your ethics.

I was referring to monopolists, of the sort Andre gently warned us about 
here on this list back in 2017:

"[OT] The Internet is Living on Borrowed Time"

In the years since he shared that their power over the world's Internet 
has only grown.

Tech moves faster than culture and the legislative frameworks serving 
culture, and during that gap we have questions. A few of the current 
ethical concerns with AI are cataloged here:

"Generative AI ChatGPT Is Going To Be Everywhere Once The API Portal 
Gets Soon Opened, Stupefying AI Ethics And AI Law"

One of the concerns that affects my artist neighbors right now is seeing 
parts of their work in the collage machines marketed as "AI art 
generators".  Text sourcing is easier to mask and more desirable to do 
so, but ultimately rests on the same value proposition, where the algo 
would be useless without vast collections of human-made media to draw from.

The tech is impressive, and clarifies a trend we've seen hinted at in 
recent years, now undeniably imminent: tech isn't just displacing 
manufacturing jobs, or reducing service workers, but will in time 
encompass many if not most knowledge worker roles as well.

Facing a future where we can expect at least 30% permanent unemployment, 
this can be heaven or hell depending on how we handle the 
acknowledgement and sharing of value.

The good news is that even Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, believes that the 
productivity gains from automation advancements will be more than 
sufficient to provide strong returns for shareholders even while paying 
a sort of "robot tax" that allows humans to enjoy a Universal Basic Income.

I share his belief, the dream of all inventors throughout history, that 
technological achievement can liberate humanity from drudgery. This 
sense of mission was well expressed by the words of Bucky Fuller: "To 
raise the quality of life for every man, woman, and child on Spaceship 
Earth beyond anything humanity has known before with detriment to none."

The only bad news is the money bags surrounding Altman wish he wouldn't 
promote the idea of a robot tax. ;)

"Silicon Valley leaders think A.I. will one day fund free cash handouts. 
But experts aren’t convinced"

So when I asked "How'd that First Industrial Revolution turn out?", it 
was the whole process I was referring to, not just the outcomes.

People died. First they died in the factories, and in the coal mines 
that fueled them.  Then they were shot at for the crime of asking for a 
living wage.  My great uncle was wounded in the Battle of Matewan during 
the Labor Wars.  And today, though the world celebrates the outcomes of 
winning that war with May Day and the US has Labor Day, here most people 
think the day is just about barbecues, already having forgotten the 
thousands who laid down their lives so we could see the 20th century 
bringing a burgeoning middle class living better than the world had seen 

And so we find ourselves at a crossroads again today with this New 
Industrial Revolution.

Let's hope we can share the benefits of the technology we all had a hand 
in bringing about, this time without bloodshed.

  Richard Gaskin
  Fourth World Systems
  Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
  Ambassador at      

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