Into the future

[William Prothero]

Dealing with Apple certificates is the most onerous part of building a standalone. I really wish the livecode team could help address this issue and help us out.

best,
Bill

William A Prothero

> On Feb 28, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Tom Glod via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> I use a mac in the cloud ..... but i have yet to do any signing .... I
> gotta get myself to do it this week. thanks for the reminder...i've been
> putting it off like its math homework only worse. :D
> 
> https://www.macincloud.com/
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 3:38 PM matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Bob,
>> 
>> with which version of LC did you see this?
>> 
>> I had a look at the most current dp version of 10. If LC would require a
>> certificate then there should be somewhere in the standalone settings a
>> area where one could select an appropriate certificate.  But that is not
>> the case.
>> 
>> What LC does for some time now when creating a macOS standalone is doing
>> an ad-hoc code signing. Please do not ask me what that is, ;)
>> but  this kind of code signing seems not to require a certificate.
>> The ad-hoc code signing is done in the stack
>> revsaveasstandalone.livecodescript.  Search for 'private command
>> performAdHocCodesign'
>> 
>> So there might some other problem and LC does come up with a misleading
>> error message.
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 28.02.2022 um 19:52 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>:
>>> 
>>> Hi Klaus.
>>> 
>>> Actually the new LC versions do not create the standalone without those
>> certificates. That is the error dialog I get. If there is a way to disable
>> that feature that would be great!
>>> 
>>> Bob S
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2022, at 10:18 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 28.02.2022 um 18:18 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Okay, so I am at the point that I cannot build apps without
>> codesigning and notarizing. Livecode will throw an error now if I try and
>> don't have these certificates installed. Great.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So I have been going through the tutorial, and I see I have to be an
>> Apple Developer, which means I have to shell out yet another $100 per year.
>> Fine, I did that, even though my app is for internal consumption only.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now It appears that for me to get the certificates needed to create a
>> Mac standalone, I need xCode! Okay, I go to download xCode, and it will not
>> install because my MacOS is too old! 10.15.1 is apparently ancient! So I am
>> at the point now where I am asking myself, is this really worth it? After
>> all the back and forth on the list where people's certificates expire, or
>> the version of xCode they are forced to use isn't compatible with one thing
>> or another, is building Mac standalones really worth it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> So my question is, do I really have to go through all this just to
>> create a Mac standalone from livecode? Or do these other utilities,
>> mrSignNotarizeHelperV3 for example, eliminate the need for all of that?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob S
>>>> 
>>>> you can still create a standalone with LC without any certificate etc.!
>>>> 
>>>>> ...even though my app is for internal consumption only.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> But your user(s) need to check -> Allow downloads from: Appstore and
>> trusted developers
>>>> In the macOS system settings -> Security
>>>> 
>>>> And after the they need to right-click your app and select "Open..."
>> from the context menu
>>>> and confirm once or twice that they really want to open that app.
>>>> 
>>>> After that they can doubleclick the app furthermore like the used to.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best
>>>> 
>>>> Klaus
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Klaus Major
>>>> https://www.major-k.de
>>>> https://www.major-k.de/bass
>>>> klaus at major-k.de
>>> 
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