Into the future

[Craig Newman]

All.

I am not sure I am following this thread correctly. Is the issue that some sort of certificate is now required for creating a standalone for desktop? 

Craig

> On Feb 28, 2022, at 4:12 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Dealing with Apple certificates is the most onerous part of building a standalone. I really wish the livecode team could help address this issue and help us out.
> 
> best,
> Bill
> 
> William A Prothero
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Tom Glod via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I use a mac in the cloud ..... but i have yet to do any signing .... I
>> gotta get myself to do it this week. thanks for the reminder...i've been
>> putting it off like its math homework only worse. :D
>> 
>> https://www.macincloud.com/
>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 3:38 PM matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bob,
>>> 
>>> with which version of LC did you see this?
>>> 
>>> I had a look at the most current dp version of 10. If LC would require a
>>> certificate then there should be somewhere in the standalone settings a
>>> area where one could select an appropriate certificate.  But that is not
>>> the case.
>>> 
>>> What LC does for some time now when creating a macOS standalone is doing
>>> an ad-hoc code signing. Please do not ask me what that is, ;)
>>> but  this kind of code signing seems not to require a certificate.
>>> The ad-hoc code signing is done in the stack
>>> revsaveasstandalone.livecodescript.  Search for 'private command
>>> performAdHocCodesign'
>>> 
>>> So there might some other problem and LC does come up with a misleading
>>> error message.
>>> 
>>> Matthias
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Am 28.02.2022 um 19:52 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Klaus.
>>>> 
>>>> Actually the new LC versions do not create the standalone without those
>>> certificates. That is the error dialog I get. If there is a way to disable
>>> that feature that would be great!
>>>> 
>>>> Bob S
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2022, at 10:18 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 28.02.2022 um 18:18 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Okay, so I am at the point that I cannot build apps without
>>> codesigning and notarizing. Livecode will throw an error now if I try and
>>> don't have these certificates installed. Great.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So I have been going through the tutorial, and I see I have to be an
>>> Apple Developer, which means I have to shell out yet another $100 per year.
>>> Fine, I did that, even though my app is for internal consumption only.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now It appears that for me to get the certificates needed to create a
>>> Mac standalone, I need xCode! Okay, I go to download xCode, and it will not
>>> install because my MacOS is too old! 10.15.1 is apparently ancient! So I am
>>> at the point now where I am asking myself, is this really worth it? After
>>> all the back and forth on the list where people's certificates expire, or
>>> the version of xCode they are forced to use isn't compatible with one thing
>>> or another, is building Mac standalones really worth it?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So my question is, do I really have to go through all this just to
>>> create a Mac standalone from livecode? Or do these other utilities,
>>> mrSignNotarizeHelperV3 for example, eliminate the need for all of that?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bob S
>>>>> 
>>>>> you can still create a standalone with LC without any certificate etc.!
>>>>> 
>>>>>> ...even though my app is for internal consumption only.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> But your user(s) need to check -> Allow downloads from: Appstore and
>>> trusted developers
>>>>> In the macOS system settings -> Security
>>>>> 
>>>>> And after the they need to right-click your app and select "Open..."
>>> from the context menu
>>>>> and confirm once or twice that they really want to open that app.
>>>>> 
>>>>> After that they can doubleclick the app furthermore like the used to.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best
>>>>> 
>>>>> Klaus
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Klaus Major
>>>>> https://www.major-k.de
>>>>> https://www.major-k.de/bass
>>>>> klaus at major-k.de
>>>> 
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