Into the future

J. Landman Gay jacque at hyperactivesw.com
Mon Feb 28 13:29:15 EST 2022


Since the app is only for internal use, you might be able to use the bypass 
that opens an unnotarized app. You'd need to give directions to the users.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202491

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Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On February 28, 2022 11:45:29 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
<use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I guess the question now becomes, what is the last Livecode app that can 
> create standalones without requiring these certificates? I may need to 
> plant my flag there and go no further.
>
> Bob S
>
>
>> On Feb 28, 2022, at 09:36 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>> It occurs to me that this may drive a lot of hobbyist Livecoders away, and 
>> discourage others from coming onboard. There ought to be some kind of 
>> disclaimer on the website, since it is a paid product only now. I'd be a 
>> bit miffed if I bought an application for developing new apps and didn't 
>> know that there would be more cash outlay required before it would work.
>>
>> Bob S
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2022, at 09:25 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> No, you really have to go through all of that. The few helper stacks out 
>>> there are just front ends (using the shell command to call command line 
>>> utilities from xcode) that make it easier once you have everything set up.
>>>
>>> Yes, it sucks.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/28/2022 12:18 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
>>>> Okay, so I am at the point that I cannot build apps without codesigning and 
>>>> notarizing. Livecode will throw an error now if I try and don't have these 
>>>> certificates installed. Great.
>>>>
>>>> So I have been going through the tutorial, and I see I have to be an Apple 
>>>> Developer, which means I have to shell out yet another $100 per year. Fine, 
>>>> I did that, even though my app is for internal consumption only.
>>>>
>>>> Now It appears that for me to get the certificates needed to create a Mac 
>>>> standalone, I need xCode! Okay, I go to download xCode, and it will not 
>>>> install because my MacOS is too old! 10.15.1 is apparently ancient! So I am 
>>>> at the point now where I am asking myself, is this really worth it? After 
>>>> all the back and forth on the list where people's certificates expire, or 
>>>> the version of xCode they are forced to use isn't compatible with one thing 
>>>> or another, is building Mac standalones really worth it?
>>>>
>>>> So my question is, do I really have to go through all this just to create a 
>>>> Mac standalone from livecode? Or do these other utilities, 
>>>> mrSignNotarizeHelperV3 for example, eliminate the need for all of that?
>>>>
>>>> Bob S
>>>>
>>>>
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