Bye, and thanks for the fish

e.beugelaar at e.beugelaar at
Fri Sep 3 09:39:54 EDT 2021

About this I can say it is really true.
I am supporting LiveCode from 2012 and never had the time to program a single word in it... but I loved the filosophy. I only did a review for Packt Publishing. There is hope!!!
Blame me not to write any code till yet ;-) but the people behind LiveCode are honest, great, intelligent and always willing to help you out. So hive it a try and just call the HQ, Heather or Kelvin will sort it out if u hv license or financial problems to obtain a new license offer.
Nice weekend to you all.

Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards
Erik Beugelaar
From: use-livecode <use-livecode-bounces at> on behalf of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <use-livecode at>
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 5:36:28 AM
To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at>
Cc: J. Landman Gay <jacque at>
Subject: Re: Bye, and thanks for the fish

This situation is the kind of thing that Kevin encourages you to contact
support about. He's said he doesn't want to lose anyone.

It's true that open source has made things difficult for the company, but
they also value the folks who have stood by them all this time. Please do
write to Heather.

Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at
HyperActive Software |
On September 1, 2021 7:54:16 PM Neville Smythe via use-livecode
<use-livecode at> wrote:

>> On 1 Sep 2021, at 11:36 pm, use-livecode-request at wrote:
>> i am not sure, if everyone is aware of it, but standalones that were
>> created with the Starter Plan license will expire as soon as the Startert
>> Plan subscription expires.
> Not even Apple is that rapacious.
> I used to have a commercial licence back when I was selling stuff (although
> the economics of software never made sense). Since retiring I have been
> “freeloading" with the Community edition as a hobbyist, my only LC uses
> being for personal use, and maintaining admin and operating software I
> wrote for a not-for-profit sporting organisation, and occasionally
> contributing bug reports. I can well understand the need for LC to move to
> a profitable basis, and I would be happy buy a plan if it made sense for
> our use, but there is no way my NFP association can afford US$1000 every
> year - or even one year (we would use 3 platforms, and not even the Server
> is thrown in with the desktop platforms). And a Starter Kit that means the
> app would stop working when I pass on (I have been around since Hypercard
> day 1) is an insult. Seems to me the hobbyist use of LC has come to an end.
> A great pity, but I guess times move on.
> I have greatly enjoyed being part of this (mostly) friendly and generous
> community for many years.
> Neville Smythe
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