LC & Catalina; macOS 10.15.x; Xcode 11.3.x; iOS 13.3.x support ???

Mike Kerner MikeKerner at
Thu Mar 12 16:03:48 EDT 2020

i'm kind-of annoyed.  i have spent enough of my company's funds and my
personal time doing lc sessions for beginners.  the two years before the lc
global sessions, we had a similar level of communication from hq as we do
there is a difference between complaining and flameing
badgering over the status of qr's shouldn't be necessary.  badgering over
comms shouldn't be necessary.  badgering over roadmaps shouldn't be
why am i putting out rfq's, trying to find alternatives to lc?
and yes, the internet doesn't forget.  perhaps lc should take that to
heart.  we should all take that to heart with our customers.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:36 PM prothero--- via use-livecode <
use-livecode at> wrote:

> Well said, Jacqueline!
> Bill
> William A. Prothero
> Santa Barbara, CA. 93105
> > On Mar 12, 2020, at 11:58 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
> use-livecode at> wrote:
> >
> > On 3/12/20 12:39 PM, hh via use-livecode wrote:
> >> The uselist is not a LC-praising list. As long as we have the freedom
> of speech
> >> everybody can say whether he is contented with LC or not. And nothing
> written does
> >> change anything*with LC*, also not your positive-only (and excellent)
> posts ...
> >
> > Tone is important. There is difference whether the post is a discussion
> of a problem, or a rant against the team and the company. Discussions are
> useful and productive. A rant that attacks the dedicated people who are
> doing their best for us can cause some of us to become defensive.
> >
> > For myself, it feels like an attack on my friends. I know these people,
> how hard they work, and how much they want LC to succeed. I also know that
> they are deluged with work, they need to choose their priorities carefully,
> and they care very much. To date, they have met every requirement that the
> shifting sands at Apple and Google have thrown at them. They need to drop
> everything else to meet those deadlines, but they do it. Of course, that
> puts them behind on other things.
> >
> > These list posts go into a permanent archive where they can discourage
> others from trying LC well into the future; I see no point in making LC
> look bad to any interested parties. A frank discussion is fine, readers
> absolutely do need to know where traps may lie and what the current status
> of the product is. But sarcasm and scathing condemnation is neither
> acceptable nor productive.
> >
> > Basically: be kind. Think how you'd feel if what you are about to write
> was directed at you.
> >
> > --
> > Jacqueline Landman Gay         |     jacque at
> > HyperActive Software           |
> >
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