LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

Peter Haworth pete at lcsql.com
Wed Mar 2 18:14:16 EST 2016


An lcstackbrowser user requested the "single tool with option to set the
style "some time ago and I implemented it.  It takes a lot less screen
space and I think is useful for experienced users but might be a little
daunting for new users.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 2:56 PM Devin Asay <devin_asay at byu.edu> wrote:

>
> > On Mar 2, 2016, at 3:42 PM, Richard Gaskin <ambassador at FourthWorld.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I haven't used the Tools palette in years, but this conversation
> prompted me to take a gander.
> >
> > I wonder if having the Widgets above the basic controls is the best
> place for them.
> >
> > I tend to think of UIs as telling a story, and sometimes that can
> include communicating the importance of things by their placement.
> >
> > Having the Browse and Pointer tools at the top, and giving them the
> largest target area, seem like good choices given their very central role
> throughout development.
> >
> > But I'll spend weeks at a time adding only buttons and fields to cards,
> only occasionally using anything else.
> >
> > The Widgets, while both useful and cool, are less commonly used. Indeed,
> most projects will use most of them once or twice if at all.
> >
> > Given this, I wonder if it makes more communicative sense to consider
> moving the basic controls above the Widgets, closer to the always-used
> Browse and Pointer icons.
> >
> > I might even go so far as to consider moving the graphics above Widgets
> as well, to be consistent in terms of frequency of use, though I recognize
> that the paint tools are perhaps the least commonly used of all, and they
> make sense being grouped near the drawing tools, so perhaps leaving that
> whole set at the bottom is fine, and we could just consider moving the
> basic tools (buttons, fields, and such) above the Widgets.
> >
> > Any opinions on this?
>
> I’m with you on this, Richard. The tools palette is getting very cluttery,
> and could stand a tidying up. For instance, right now there are:
> - 5 button tools
> - 5 field tools
> - 5 menu button tools
> - 4 scrollbar tools
>
> Would it make sense to fold each object class into a single tool with an
> option to set a different style of each object as the default? Sort of how
> Photoshop’s tools palette lets you select the type of marquee tool (or
> shape tool, or magic wand tool, etc. etc.) that is the default.
>
> >
> >
> > PS: What happens when one has 100 Widgets installed?
>
> Right. Now you can choose to hide or show entire sections of the tools
> palette. (Although I had somehow completely missed that option, and only
> noticed it when someone here referred to it.)
>
> I’d like to see an option to display only selected widgets (or other
> tools) on the tools palette.
>
>
> Devin
>
>
> Devin Asay
> Office of Digital Humanities
> Brigham Young University
>
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