menu buttons and showname

[Peter Haworth]

Interesting observation Scott.  Makes me wonder if I'm actually using the
correct type of menu.

For example, I might have an option menu which lists the names of tables in
a database and another one that lists the columns in the selected table.
There's no "call to action" in that situation (other than to pick a table
and a column), so is an option menu the correct type of control according
to HIG?

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 10:00 AM Scott Rossi <scott at tactilemedia.com> wrote:

> Often, this type of control has a call to action such as "Choose an item",
> as opposed an indication "No selection".  It depends on the context of
> your control.  If a selection is required in your set up, the call to
> action is more communicative. Otherwise, if "No selection" is a valid
> selection then that type of message should work.
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>
>
>
>
> On 7/2/15, 8:47 AM, "Peter Haworth" <pete at lcsql.com> wrote:
>
> >Good point. For lots of reasons, the names of my option menus aren't
> >suitable for display to a user. Maybe the cleanest thing to do then is, if
> >the text of the menu is empty, set its label as suggested by Richard. I
> >like that. Most of the menus in question are under the control of a
> >behavior so this is easy to implement.
> >
> >On Thu, Jul 2, 2015, 8:28 AM Richard Gaskin <ambassador at fourthworld.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Peter Haworth wrote:
> >>
> >> > So my technique of setting showname to false if the text is empty is
> >>the
> >> > only way round this?
> >> >
> >> > Also, you can have a label for an option menu with empty text. Try
> >> setting
> >> > the text of an option menu to empty, then use the message box to set
> >>its
> >> > label to some value.
> >>
> >> With the OS X HIGs not nearly as complete as they used to be I can no
> >> longer find the relevant section on this, but I believe most HIGs
> >> suggest that we avoid giving the user the impression the control may be
> >> broken by replacing empty items with some explanation of why it's empty,
> >> or perhaps a disabled item simply saying "None".
> >>
> >> --
> >>   Richard Gaskin
> >>   Fourth World Systems
> >>   Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
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