externalPackages

[JB]

Thanks for the info.

I don’t really need any of them I was just trying
to use them if it was possible.  Your information
shows it is not possible and therefore I won’t
waste my time on it.

I am surprised that as long as LiveCode has been
around there are not more externals available.  If
you have developed externals for LiveCode why
not sell them like was done for HyperCard?  That
would be better than the Standard Library at least
for your pocket book and might encourage others
to earn a few dollars too.  It would be kind of like
fast food marketing.  Usually when you find one
fast food place others are in the general area and
might even be across the street or next door.  They
have found that having fast food places by each
other does not take business away from the first
fast food place to be located there and instead it
actually increases the business for all fast food
places in the area.  Just a thought since I have not
seen anyone marketing externals for LiveCode.

John Balgenorth


On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Richard Gaskin <ambassador at fourthworld.com> wrote:

> JB wrote:
>> Since you come from a SuperCard background could
>> you answer a question for me?
>> 
>> I am a registered owner of SuperCard 4.6 and SuperEdit 4.6.
>> The Xtend section allows you to export externals.  I contacted
>> SuperCard Support and they said I could use the SuperCard
>> externals in other programs that use externals as long as I
>> abide by the EULA.  That is not a problem.
>> 
>> I exported a external and tried to use it in Revolution and could
>> not get it to work.  The next thing I was going to try is to make a
>> empty external for LiveCode naming it the same as the external
>> I want to use and from SuperCard install it into the resource by
>> changing the type from .bundle to .txt and then change the type
>> back to .bundle.  I have done that without making the empty
>> external so I have not actually tried it yet.  Is that the proper
>> way to install a SuperCard external in Rev or is it not possible
>> at all to use them in Rev?
> 
> I'm very familiar with SC externals indeed: I started Fourth World in 1994 primarily as a vendor of SuperCard add-ons, with a catalog of externals written by myself and many others, including one of the current co-owners of SC, Mark Lucas.
> 
> Even back in those days, not all externals could be used across the various apps that supported the HyperCard externals interface.   The SuperCard Internals Toolbox, for example, included many APIs not found in HyperCard, so many of the best SC externals couldn't run in HC (or OMO, or Microphone, or any of the other apps that supported the original HC externals interface).
> 
> The migration from 68x to PPC compounded the compatibility issue, as has the move from PPC to Intel.  Today, even SC itself can only run a subset of all the externals ever written for it; I don't think anything I'd ever published can be run with SC today.
> 
> With LC, the externals API is very different, so even if you had an Intel-compatible external and only needed to run it on Mac, it would still need to be recompiled to use the LiveCode externals APIs.
> 
> Fortunately, at least for the work I do, aside from the database externals included with LC I rarely use any at all.  Most of the things I'd written externals for in SC are included in LiveCode itself.
> 
> Which externals from Xtend do you need?
> 
> I'll bet there are LiveCode equivalents for most of them, or easily written using LiveCode itself.
> 
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