LiveCode Player for 5.5

[Richmond]

On 03/27/2012 09:11 PM, Judy Perry wrote:
> Certainly, it's easy enough to blame poor online learning experiences 
> on lazy or inept instructional designers who all too often are taught 
> to use truly crappy tools, but it doesn't excuse the crappy tools 
> themselves.
>
> And why do teachers and instructional designers use crappy tools? 
> Because it's all they know; it's all their colleagues know, it's the 
> only thing they see at educational conferences that is even remotely 
> comprehensible, which means that most of them have never heard of LC 
> and never will.  And, even if they did, imagine that poor hapless soul 
> whose degree, after all, is in teaching or instructional design and 
> not CS, on this 10+ year bumpy road EE ticket for Mr. Toad's Wild Ride 
> of LC in education!  "We're a'going this away... WAIT A MINUTE!! NO 
> WE'RE NOT!!"
>
> Rev can't do anything about teachers who are not allowed to download 
> and install software (I couldn't even get a state university satellite 
> campus to install GIMP for heaven's sake!) but there other things it 
> could do to make LC a better product for designing online or 
> computer-based instruction.
>
> *It could show itself at actual teaching/educational conferences. 
> HyperStudio knows that and does it and teachers have heard of it.
>
> *It could improve the out-of-box experience for new users (haven't we 
> been asking that for nearly a decade?).
>
> *It could structure its instructional content into graded paths that 
> are intuitive to use for differing types of users instead of just 
> dumping them in the middle of a bazillions lessons on how to do things 
> using keywords that new users aren't likely to know.
>
> *It could pick a path and just gradually STICK WITH IT.  It's this 
> constant serving about on the educational development road that make 
> the product look so very iffy... (MEDIA!  Players!  Web Plugin!  
> HTML5? yeah baby!  until we drop it!)
>
> And, yupp, iPads are the shiny new toys... that will suck budgetary 
> funds out of nurses and teacher's aids and lunches for nothing 
> (remember when having laptops in the classroom was the new shiny toy 
> that accomplished what exactly??? and before that having a desktop 
> computer in the classroom?).
>
> Oh, and I'm not kidding about the lunches thing.  On cold or rainy 
> days I have the kids eat a school lunch, only for them to tell me that 
> they ate a banana, a cookie and a piece of fake cheese because the 
> school ran out of the hot meals they were supposed to be serving.  
> Yes, RAN OUT.

Ach, Judy; Thee and Me have been saying all the above to RunRev for a 
longish time; and they have never managed to present a consistent 
educational front . . .

. . .  what they probably need (but would be loath to admit) is an 
educationalist to run their educational side (well, if they had one), run
around schools demoing the thing, co-opting teachers, and so on.

This June I should like to give some of my kids a "quick-n-dirty" 3 day 
course with RR/Livecode. I honestly cannot see much point as there
is no RevMedia and/or cut-down free version for those kids to take away 
at the end of things.

>
> Judy
>
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012, Bob Earp wrote:
>
>> I sense the frustration Judy, but wonder if it was related somewhat 
>> to your children's birthday ;-)
>>
>> Having just had a granddaughter turn 11 and a grandson 9, I too 
>> wondered what we had really achieved in online learning since I 
>> started with Plato (a DOS system running on a custom Pee Cee) back in 
>> the stone age.  Compared to the evolution of technology, I suspect 
>> not much.
>>
>
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