runrev 4.0 - kudos and a gripe

-= JB =- sundown at pacifier.com
Sun Jun 28 04:51:22 CDT 2009


It would be really nice to have better control of text.  For instance  
if you are using a Mac
they could write and extension to allow text control using ATSUI

http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/COnceptual/ 
ATSUI_Concepts/atsui_chap1/atsui_intro.html

The rev web stuff is what we needed too.

They are both very visually orientated and have better control of  
text and how it is
displayed improves your website or rev program.

I vote for ATSUI control for Mac users.  Are there any example codes  
for extensions that
that use similar callbacks etc so we could add our own extension  
easier?  I have only
seen two examples of extensions and Rev provided them both.  Any  
others out there?
HyperCard had tons of code examples for externals.  But I can do most  
things with the
things Rev has already provided so I understand not seeing many  
examples.

-=>JB<=-


On Jun 28, 2009, at 1:32 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

> Why on earth would you want to spend time duplicating programs like  
> WordPad or TextEdit?
>
> The place is swimming with Text Editors!  And they get rather  
> repetitive and boring after
> the first 258.  :)
>
> This is similar to complaining that you cannot makes bricks with  
> sand: get over it,
> the Egyptians did it with mud 6000 years ago - and its never been  
> bettered!
>
> Admittedly the drop-shadows, while being 'sexy' could easily be run- 
> up in
> GIMP or "its commercial rival". The webby-thing, as far as I am  
> concerned,
> is a quantum leap, and a "new text field" will just have to wait;  
> after all we
> have reasonably respectable text fields already.
>
> "you can make any kind of application in runrev" is the usual  
> commercial hype;
> however you can have a jolly good stab at it with Runtime  
> Revolution with an
> extremely approachable interface.
>
> If Text-Editors really "tickle your prawns" I have a whole series  
> of stacks
> 'lying around' on my hard drives dealing with all sorts of aspects  
> of text
> importing, formatting, editing and exporting (frankly couldn't see  
> much
> point in knitting them together for . . . another text editor)  
> which I can bung
> together in a zip file and send them to you so you can curse my  
> name forever
> as you try to assemble them into text editor "Number 259".
>
> Shao Sean wrote:
>> kudos
>> - web plugin
>> - server-side scripting (and maybe some day it will be released to  
>> the public)
>> - photoshop-like effects
>>
>> while i did think that the real-time drop shadow and other  
>> Photoshop-like effects were nifty I do not see why they were added  
>> over a feature like a new text field.. during the webinar it was  
>> mentioned that "you can make any kind of application in runrev"  
>> but the fact that one can not even duplicate WordPad or TextEdit  
>> is kind of sad..
>>
>> i do like the new logo though ^_^
>>
>> -Sean
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