Rev 4 Preview Webinar - Video Link

Richmond Mathewson richmondmathewson at gmail.com
Fri Jun 26 16:54:58 EDT 2009


I think one can get a bit too hoity-toity about commercial software; and 
I am not fan number 1 of Microsoft either;
BUT, as VLC (which is Open Source, Hurrah, Hurrah, Hurrah) plays WMV 
files "just like that" we should not complain.

I know, Andre, that if somebody suggested I ran out and bought 2 dv 
cameras and then spent ages fiddling around reimporting
the recorded video files and so on I would get a bit miffed.

Obviously the chaps on the Webinar did "what came naturally" with the 
broadcast software; I know I would.

Andre Garzia wrote:
> Bill,
> I am sure you guys probably thought about this before. You can use external
> monitor adapters on both computers hooked to dv cameras to record both
> screens at the same time. Then you can pick these high quality sources
> and edit to recreate the cuts you made live.
>
> it's a ton of work and needs two cameras but it has no quality downside.
>
> I am fine with the WMVs you put though, they play fine on my mac with vlc
>
> cheers
> Andre
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Bill Marriott <wjm at wjm.org> wrote:
>
>   
>> Michael,
>>
>>     
>>> Really?
>>>       
>> Really.
>>
>>     
>>> I think you should forego foisting MS POS formats on everyone and
>>> use mp4 for distribution instead. I can explain how if necessary.
>>>       
>> Be my guest. We've already spent dozens of hours trying to work around
>> this.
>>
>> The GoToWebinar software we use for our webinars records *only* in WMV --
>> our choices are WMV that uses a special GoToWebinar codec that works only
>> on
>> Windows, and requires installation of the GoToWebinar software; or a
>> cross-platform, portable WMV. Every option we have tried to transcode such
>> files has resulted in, at the minimum, a file size of twice as large, and a
>> loss in quality (such as what you would get converting a WMA file to MP3).
>> For example, we had to recode an earlier webinar because of a glitch and
>> the
>> file size went from 50MB to 140MB after our best efforts.
>>
>> Some people have suggested we use a second computer to capture the video
>> using different screen recording software, but this is also sub-optimal as
>> a) the second computer is capturing compressed audio/video as a "guest" of
>> the conference, not capturing the source screens; b) the GoToWebinar
>> software captures the screens at a consistent resolution, without needing
>> to
>> worry about resetting the capture rect as we change presenters and other
>> details; c) the other programs often require installation of a special
>> codec, themselves.
>>
>> Note also that you said you prefer mp4, as if this were a universal format.
>> But most Windows users cannot view that format, without having QuickTime or
>> other additional software installed, and we wouldn't want to "foist"
>> anything on them. Plus WMV is a "progressive download" that starts to play
>> fairly quickly, as opposed to requiring the whole file to be downloaded.
>>
>> So, if you've got an idea that doesn't have these downsides, let me know.
>>
>> - Bill
>>
>>
>>
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