Rev 2.8.1 NOT Leopard ready!

[Ken Ray]

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:56:44 +0000 (GMT), Richmond Mathewson wrote:

> This only matters if:
> 
> 1. You intend to develop software for Mac OS 10.5
> 
> 2. You have installed Mac OS 10.5 on your machine.

Don't be ridiculous, Richmond... most people are developing software 
that doesn't use metal window styles, and Leopard hasn't affected them. 
And the fact that metal didn't work properly was identified by Sarah to 
this list three days ago, so it shouldn't have been a surprise:

  I have just managed to replicate the disappearing button trick. It
  happens for me if I set the stack to metal. When I switch to any other
  app all the controls on my metal stack disappear. If I go back to Rev,
  they are still not visible, but they are active - buttons can be
  clicked and fields can be typed in (the insertion point appears OK).
  Resizing the stack makes them all come back again.
  
  When a stack is set to metal, changing the background color never has
  any effect, so if your stack is metal, this is not a bug.
  
  So the problem is the metal stack look when in Leopard. I've just
  filed a bug report
  <http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5491>

> 1. The number of people who use Macintosh computers is
> small.

True, relative to the rest of the world (8% at recent survey).
 
> 2. Is it worth investing the money for:-
> 
>     Mac OS 10.5
> 
>     Waiting for RR 2.9.1 and then paying for it
> 
>     Paying lots and lots just to get all your
> 'workhorse' programs 
>     to work under Mac OS 10.5  ???

Well first of all, many people have the "I'll wait until Service Pack 1 
is out" (Windows) or "I'll wait until 10.x.1 is out" (Mac) attitude, 
and this is a legitimate perspective. I have Leopard installed on an 
external drive at the moment to do testing, etc., but I'm not going to 
upgrade right away - I'm waiting to hear what works/doesn't work before 
I make the move, and may even wait until "10.5.1" is out.

Of course people buying new machines or are early adopters don't have 
this opportunity, but for those with existing machines, I've found it 
just doesn't pay to jump the gun and adopt an OS upgrade as soon as it 
comes out, unless there's really no other choice.
 
> As a long-time Mac Fan I am beginning to wonder if Mac
> have not done  "A Vista" with Leopard . . . 

Nope... it took Apple significantly less than 5 years to roll out their 
next major OS release. ;-)


Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: kray at sonsothunder.com
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/