Front Row/Remote

Thomas McGrath III 3mcgrath at adelphia.net
Sat Apr 22 16:37:06 EDT 2006 

Chris,

Adding that to frontRow is a no go but using the remote is a mater of  
interpreting the incoming IR commands which FrontRow is set to listen  
for. I know I've seen a few IR type drivers but have not done that yet.

It is my understanding that the 'tell application "System Events" to  
key code 53" launches the frontRow app so if you trap that then you  
need to then launch your own app and trap the other key equivalents  
coming from the IR remote.

There are actually two different types of remotes for the Mac one is  
the FrontRow and the other is for previous machines with out FrontRow.

I would look into the IR side for a solution.

TOm

P.S. I was able to gett FrontRow working and to use it via keyboard  
keys only. Way cool.


Tom

On Apr 22, 2006, at 3:41 PM, Chris Carroll-Davis wrote:

> Tom/Ian -
>
> Thanks for the help on this.  What I really want though, is not to  
> control Front Row, but to "subvert" it altogether.  I want to steal  
> the input from the remote control so that I can do useful things  
> with Rev instead.
>
> Specifically, I'd like the menu button on remote to bring a Rev  
> window to front that could act as an alternative to the Front Row  
> menu.  On it I could put buttons for my slideshow program, an  
> internet radio menu etc...
>
> I wish Apple had made the remote control accessible to third-party  
> developers (to maybe tie-in to Front Row) e.g. there is a really  
> neat Digital TV USB adapter (Miglia TVMini) which would seem an  
> obvious extension to the Front Row ethos.  The addition of being  
> able to watch TV as well as video/DVD seems sensible.  But there is  
> no way of adding this to Front Row. Shame.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On 22 Apr 2006, at 18:19, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
>
>> Chris,
>>
>> I pulled this out of that script:
>>
>> on navigate(this_key)
>> 	if this_key is in rightKeys then
>> 		tell application "System Events"
>> 			keystroke (ASCII character 29)
>> 		end tell
>> 	else if this_key is in leftKeys then
>> 		tell application "System Events"
>> 			keystroke (ASCII character 28)
>> 		end tell
>> 	else if this_key is in upKeys then
>> 		tell application "System Events"
>> 			keystroke (ASCII character 30)
>> 		end tell
>> 	else if this_key is in downKeys then
>> 		tell application "System Events"
>> 			keystroke (ASCII character 31)
>> 		end tell
>> 	end if
>> end navigate
>>
>> And it seems after activation you can control FrontRow with  
>> keystrokes and if you can do that then we can do it i REV.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2006, at 1:16 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
>>
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> I found an applescript for controlling FrontRow via Applescript at:
>>>
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/mikemunson/mobile/Front%20Row% 
>>> 20Remote.applescript
>>>
>>> It may rely on another app if I read the code right but this is  
>>> doable and also I found some control scripts at Sailing CLicker's  
>>> forums too.
>>>
>>> Check it out and see if you can extract from it.
>>>
>>> TOm
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 22, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Chris Carroll-Davis wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tom -
>>>>
>>>> Good suggestion - I rushed off to try.  But unfortunately no  
>>>> joy.  Front Row is a very non-standard app and doesn't seem to  
>>>> be at all scriptable. Blast.
>>>>
>>>> I am expecting to be beaten by this one!
>>>>
>>>> C
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 22 Apr 2006, at 15:33, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>
>>>>> If you approach this from the software side you might have  
>>>>> better luck. Open up Applescript editor and see about the  
>>>>> Dictionary for Front Row. I don't have Front Row so I can't  
>>>>> tell what features are available for third party apps via AS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then if there are messages for FR from within AS then you can  
>>>>> arrange them and control them from within Rev.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH - Let us know,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 22, 2006, at 10:13 AM, Chris Carroll-Davis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone have any suggestions on how I might be able to  
>>>>>> intercept input from the Apple remote control?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have to say I am mightily unimpressed with Front Row.  After  
>>>>>> you get past the initial wow factor of the whizz-bang carousel  
>>>>>> effect, the rest of the interface (i think) is very limited.   
>>>>>> E.g. to select shared music is a couple of presses down, even  
>>>>>> though that is all I *ever* want to do (I have no music stored  
>>>>>> locally on the MiniMac).  Then when I do get to choose a  
>>>>>> track, I am stuck with the track name/artist in enormous white  
>>>>>> lettering. Yuk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Front Row might be fine to cover general use for most users,  
>>>>>> but I (having access to Rev's abilities) could do much better  
>>>>>> for my own *personal* set up.  E.g. I could (and have) use Rev  
>>>>>> to do custom still/video slideshow or make internet radio  
>>>>>> interface - but I wish I could hijack the remote control!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have tried switching on the message watcher and pressing  
>>>>>> buttons on the remote in the hope that it might trigger  
>>>>>> something (e.g. rawkeydown) but nada.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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