Ins and outs

Judy Perry jperryl at ecs.fullerton.edu
Sun Dec 12 15:33:12 EST 2004


I agree that this is a useful and, to the company I would hope, a valuable
topic in which the userbase could assist the company to develop a product
geared towards the enduser (non-geek) market that could help bring in
greater revenue than may ultimately be generated by the 'diminishing
marginal returns geek market'.

I had thought of this possibility last night when I first read Richmond's
comment... Richard, what is the possibility of either a
separately-sanctioned Yahoo discussion group or the merging of the
improve-docs thread along with an improve-UI thread for the existing
group?

I am quite certain that all the real geeks have long since tired  of
reading our comments/rants/other regarding the usability of Rev/Dreamcard.

Perhaps if comments similar to those which have been offered on the
improve-docs group could be offered up and backed up with sound research
or reasoning, the company would be willing to take a look?

Judy

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004, steve messimer wrote:

> Richard
>
> >  As you will by now be aware, I am particularly interested
> >in usability - specifically for non-computer types, and to
> >that end made rather over-the-top tool bars for both RR &
> >MC, and then went to one particular extreme with my thesis.
>
>
> >  I do believe that far too little attention is paid to the
> >end-user experience and wonder if now is not the time to
> >start a use-list specifically dedicated to this - and keep
> >the current - MC and RR lists for xTalk related matters
> >only. The nature of RR/MC readily lends itself to the rapid
> >development of a wide variety of user interfaces  - and,
> >owing to the cross-platform nature of RR/MC, is, to my
> >mind, one of the better RADs for UI development and
> >experimentation.
>
> I have been interested in this since Hypercard first appeared on the market.
> On first glance rapid educational development using xTalk seemed the way to
> go.  But what I found at least was that from scratch development of useful
> educational applications could take months.  Part of the problem ( and there
> are many others besides is that higher order development tools were not
> available ) To build these was very time consuming. Now if you are an
> instructor at any level time is not a commodity that is available in great
> supply.  I started working on preceptortools  back in the late 80's. While
> it was never a commercial success I think that some of the ideas still have
> merit.
>
> If you have never looked at it you are welcome to do so by going to my
> website which is still up and running. http://www.messimercomputing.com
>
> I would welcome the opportunity to participate in a dialog regarding methods
> of improving the usability of development environments for educational
> purposes.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve Messimer, PA
>
>
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