Hypercard and Rev (was: Hobbyist License
Jim Witte
jswitte at bloomington.in.us
Fri Aug 16 00:43:01 EDT 2002
> I doubt there are a lot of people in the world [..] would argue that
> Apple is a great marketing company. Historically, in fact, they are
> quite poor at the real guts of marketing:
Amen to that! Can anyone say 'Newton'? (Horribly bad management
there as well.) But I digress..
> When HyperCard was in its heyday and I was traveling the world
> promoting my books and speaking to user groups, I found literally
> thousands of people who had "accidentally" backed into becoming
> scripters because of the wonderfully seductive nature of the beast.
I always thought that what Apple should have done with HC was
integrate it directly into the Finder and the OS itself. When I first
looked at Applescript, I was extremely put off by the fact that the
syntax was somehow harder to write than HC (especially the replacement
of 'put' with 'set' - setting properties *of objects* makes sense, but
'setting' values of *containers* doesn't IMO) If Apple had integrated
HC into the Finder from the beginning, allowing, say, you to put a
button and field and such on the desktop itself, it could have had
system-level scripting (on a GUI) at least 3-4 years before anyone else
(well, I don't know about the timeline - I'm not an OS historian - Xerox
PARC probably had system scripting 20 years ago!) From an 'innovation'
point-of-view, this would probably be a good thing; from a business
point-of-view, it debatable; and from a historical point-of-view, it's
probably irrelevant - someone would have done it anyway, and by 2030 it
won't matter who does (as long as the USPTO and the courts don't through
a large legal wrench in the works..)
As for the 'resurgence of the xTalks' (sounds like a cult movie) -
could Revolution be turned into a such a 'on-the-desktop' scripting
environment?
> I saw demonstrated fully color versions of the product running on Mac
> and Windows. I had copies of these things (though they were
> time-expired and have long since disappeared).
Oh GOD! Reminds me even more of Newton (the Dragon speech recogition
demo).
Jim
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