Always negative

[J. Landman Gay]

As organizer you should do it as you think best. What I meant by Indigogo 
not returning funds is that the donors don't get their money back. That's 
okay as long as the donors know that LC gets the money even if it isn't 
enough to fix the target bugs. Otherwise they may come back to you with the 
familiar refrain, "I paid and you didn't fulfill your promises."

I agree direct deposit to LC is best if you can set it up.

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Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On October 5, 2019 7:13:23 AM Richmond via use-livecode 
<use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> On 5.10.19 0:08, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
>> Figuring it out is one of the challenges.
>
> Yes.
>
>> I think you'd first need to prioritize the bugs you and others want
>> fixed, which may be the hardest part. I know LC faces that daily,
>> their criteria is to prioritize by severity and/or by the number of
>> people the issue impacts.
>
> I have had some help from Richard G. re filtering bug reports over on
> the Forums.
>
> I think that my first bit of work will be to perform some sort of triage
> there, and then lob the results to
> LiveCode central so they can say, "load of cr*p", "makes sense", or
> provide their own list.
>
>> You and whoever joins you may want to add different ways of measuring it.
>>
>> Once you have a few pinned down, you'd want to check with the team to
>> see how many hours and how much it might cost. Then you'd have a
>> target goal.
>>
>> I wouldn't personally use Indigogo because if the goal isn't reached
>> the money is not returned.
>
> That's odd as I ran an Indiegogo campaign last year for funding for my
> Devawriter Pro: reached nowhere near the target, but the Indiegogo
> people still sent me the funds I did raise
> .
>> Kickstarter doesn't require payment until the goal is fully pledged.
>> There are probably other ways to do it, that would be up to the
>> organizer to research.
>>
>> Then you'll need to wait to see if anyone pledges/pays/whatever and
>> the target is met. If so, you hand over the money to LC
>
> I don't think I would feel comfortable collecting money and THEN handing
> it over to LC: I would feel far happier if the money were directly
> funnelled into a LiveCode account.
>
>> and move on to the next target if you like.
>>
>> --
>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com
>> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>> On October 4, 2019 3:51:49 AM Richmond via use-livecode
>> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I am willing to organise a fundraiser to help finance ironing out
>>> LiveCode bugs.
>>>
>>> I am, however, not sure how to go about that;
>>>
>>> 1. Set up a 'thing' on Indiegogo (because this is not a fund-raiser to
>>> have a set lower limit)?
>>>
>>> 2. Link it to a dedicated bank account belonging to LiveCode?
>>>
>>> 3. Perform some sort of triage to rank LC bugs?
>>>
>>> 4. Have a way to award badges for people who donate to squash particular
>>> bugs?
>>>
>>> I believe that this is quite a useful model:
>>> https://home.unicode.org/adopt-a-character/
>>>
>>> If this would work I am more than willing to "put my time where my mouth
>>> is" and run this.
>>>
>>> On 4.10.19 9:51, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
>>>> The fundraiser idea has been discussed before in regard to desired new
>>>> feature requests but it could easily be done for bugs as well. It only
>>>> needs someone to organize it. Are you willing?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com
>>>> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>>>>
>>>> On October 4, 2019 12:20:32 AM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
>>>> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not entirely.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can put for what I regard as a positive suggestion. Whether it is
>>>>> doable
>>>>> and makes any business sense is a big question.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Stop all continuing development for a fixed period of time (6 months,
>>>>> say)
>>>>> and attempt to sort out as many of the outstanding bugs as possible.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a fundraiser where individuals could sponsor specific bugs and
>>>>> features they really wanted seeing to.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Even "Awful Richmond" would stump up some money for that.
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