mousemove doesn't recognize "shiftkey is down", but only under Windows

[Stephen Barncard]

Does the same thing happen with VMware?

not that I have any plans to develop anything in Windows.
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Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
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On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 8:16 PM Howard Bornstein via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I just wanted to mention that the problem detecting the shift-key being
> down seems to be entirely an issue with Parallels. My test, running under
> Windows 10 on a real PC had no trouble with my code that was looking for
> the shift-key being down. I'm glad to see this problem wasn't within
> LiveCode. There are so many layers where something can go wrong, it can be
> a challenge identifying exactly where the problem is happening. It must be
> a pretty specific issue with Parallels that only manifests by ignoring the
> shift key.
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 10:02 PM Howard Bornstein <bornstein at designeq.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 10:50 PM Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Howard:
> >>
> >>  > All my test show that for the Shift key and the Option key, when
> >>  > called within a mousemove handler, it doesn't register that the
> >>  > keys are down unless the mouse button is clicked first.
> >>
> >> Hi Howard, I tested your code verbatim in the card script of a new stack
> >> in LC 901 on native Windows 10 with a real PC laptop, Dell Intel i5.
> >>
> >> It works fine here.
> >
> >
> > Thanks for testing this out.
> >
> >
> >> I also noticed that since "shiftkey" only has two
> >> states, you don't really need to test it twice; you could cut out the
> >> second "if" statement. In fact, this yields similar results:
> >>
> >> on mousemove x,y
> >>   put x,y && the shiftkey
> >> end mousemove
> >>
> >
> > Lol. Yeah, I wasn't trying for elegance. I was making sure the code and
> > results were absolutely clear.
> >
> >
> >> So, despite the very significant issues that LC 9 has on real Windows,
> >> including a barely-usable script editor, it seems likely that this is
> >> not one of them. That's good news! But obviously you do have a problem.
> >>
> >> Have you tested your code in a brand new empty stack in a fresh and
> >> unmodded instance of LC, no extra plugins or scripts running? If so, if
> >> it's just Parallels, I have to say that virtual Windows isn't quite the
> >> same. Well, I guess an Intel Mac sporting a GUI that contradicts much of
> >> Apple's original research isn't quite the same either; I'm a big
> >> original Mac guy! :) But some details are different. That's why I always
> >> use real Mac and real Windows.
> >>
> >
> > I have friend with a real Windows machine that will test the code of the
> > app where I applied this technique so, hopefully I'll be able to see if
> it
> > works on a real PC and if the problem is Parallels. I'm a Mac guy too and
> > only use Windows to test apps built for both platforms.
> >
> >
> >> But if you get different results with a fresh stack and LC, if there is
> >> something else going on and you would like me to test your actual stack
> >> (on native Windows) or help solve your problem, feel free to contact me
> >> off-list. Interesting.
> >>
> >
> > Thanks. I'll let you know what my friend turns up.
> >
> >
> >> (Meanwhile, hope we can get improvements for some of the real Windows
> >> problems that LC has. It's difficult to type in the LC 901 script editor
> >> on Windows - that is a pretty huge issue. I have a WordLib update coming
> >> out in a few days, pending final tests, and it never hurts to have a
> >> fully usable version of the latest LC IDE on both platforms!)
> >>
> >
> > I did work a little bit in the script editor under Windows and didn't
> > notice the awful problems you've been reporting, but again, it was just
> > some tweaks and code changes. I don't do most of my scripting under
> > Windows. I hope this gets fixed.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >>
> >> Curry Kenworthy
> >>
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> >
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