Livecode's CEF Builds

Brian Milby brian at milby7.com
Mon Sep 10 23:03:57 EDT 2018


Seems like the GPL issue is in LiveCode’s court. They can specifically allow linking to non-free libraries as a provision to the GPL license.
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#FSWithNFLibs
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLIncompatibleLibs

Thanks,
Brian
On Sep 10, 2018, 9:23 PM -0500, Tom Glod via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>, wrote:
> Thats what I am thinking too..... I will do my best to find a legal
> perspective on this.....
>
> didn't Runrev have to ship the first LC Community with something
> proprietery in it too? I remember seeing a note about it in the installer.
> or maybe i was hallucinating.
>
> Why do my standalones have to be GPL3 too?.... you can't change code in
> binary.... so isn't it the source files I am obligated to share?
>
> I'm pretty sure there is a way to do this. So close. :) Thanks
> Monte....... I appreciate not taking chances ....I'm not interested in
> litigation.
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 9:14 PM Monte Goulding via use-livecode <
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > There’s some questions here that need a lawyer to answer.
> >
> > To start with I think you need to ensure that building CEF with
> > proprietary codecs enabled does not include anything that has a license
> > that is incompatible with GPL 3. Otherwise you can’t distribute your
> > standalone with the modified CEF under the GPL 3. FWIW I have built CEF
> > with proprietary codecs and due to the complexity of chromium I would still
> > need to spend a few days reviewing code to know exactly what was included
> > when I did that. I do know there’s OpenH264 in there which is BSD licensed.
> >
> > Then there’s whether the patents infringe on the GPL… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
> >
> > FWIW if you can satisfy yourself that you aren’t infringing the GPL
> > distributing the standalone with CEF built with proprietary codecs enabled
> > then you should just be able to add some notes about that to include with
> > your source like you would note that when distributed as a standalone it
> > includes the LiveCode engine and where to find the source and build
> > instructions for that etc… although again IANAL.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Monte
> >
> > > On 11 Sep 2018, at 10:48 am, Tom Glod via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > So I got a msg back and they are totally down with me shipping the codec
> > as
> > > long as I pay the fees for the # of licenses I sell past 100,000
> > >
> > > Correct me if I am wrong, can I not put the code of my application on
> > > github as GPL 3? and build my standalones using LC with the modified CEF
> > > files ?
> > >
> > > If someone builds from the standalones on github they get the full
> > > application except the avc / h264 codec in CEF?
> > >
> > > Which license agreement does that break?
> > >
> > > Is it also not an option to have community version and then a
> > non-community
> > > version like LC does? I am really down for paying the 40 cents or 25
> > cents
> > > per paid user whatever it is.
> > >
> > > Is there any way to this work and still put my .livecode file on github?
> > > ...but ship standalones with the modified CEF build?
> >
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