[ANN] Release 9.0.0

Richmond Mathewson richmondmathewson at gmail.com
Sat Apr 7 03:40:36 EDT 2018


I'm sorry, I missed the point about using LiveCode's built-in upgrade 
download capacity when
I reported that it took me about 3 minutes to download LC 9.0.

The reason I missed the point was that I have used the in-built upgrade 
system exactly once (on a Mac)
and the whole thing was such a negative experience (slow and giving me a 
slight feeling I wasn't in control)
that I have always downloaded versions via the download page through 
Firefox.

The time I used the in-built upgrade system was a few years ago: and 
coupled with the odd situation
that versions such as the 9.0 DP series offered me the opportunity to 
"update" to some of the 8.1 series,
the result was that the in-built upgrade system has not been in the 
"forefront of my consciousness"
for a considerable time.

Richmond.

On 7/4/2018 6:12 am, Ron Metzker via use-livecode wrote:
> Hi Panos,
>
> I updated my two Macs today with LiveCode 9.0.0. Unfortunately I also had a very slow download on both. I have a very fast internet connection. I dowloaded them from within LiveCode by doing an update.
>
> After I had downloaded them, I tried to see what the problem was. I did a test on my internet. It was at the correct speed in the test. So I went to the LiveCode download page and downloaded both the Indy and the Business dmg from the site at the same time. It took only a couple of minutes. So the slowness of the download appears to caused by using the LiveCode download stack. It was probably 20 to 30 times slower than using the download page.
>
> Best Regards,
> Ron
>
>> On Apr 4, 2018, at 10:51 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>> @Peter
>> One more thing to try before filing a bug report:
>>
>> 1. Clear Prefs again
>> 2. Open LC, you should see the revFileAssociation dialog ("LiveCode files
>> are not currently associated with this version. Would you like to make this
>> association?")
>> 3. Choose "Yes"
>>
>> Does the splash screen close after that?
>>
>> BTW if you want to close this stack manually, you can try that:
>>
>> - type in the msg box "close the mousestack" but do NOT press Enter
>> - place the cursor on the splash stack
>> - press enter
>>
>> I am wondering if an error occurs on startup, so LC stops execution, and
>> the line of code in the IDE startup scripts that closes this stack is never
>> reached.
>>
>> @Richard
>> Thanks for the update, I'll pass it to the team. I know we had at least
>> another 3 users in your area that suffered from very slow download speeds.
>> Network issues are hard to diagnose :)
>>
>> Best,
>> Panos
>> --
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>>> @Peter Bogdanoff bogdanoff:
>>>> Yesterday it took me 3-4 hours to download LC 9. I’m in California.
>>> Good to know I'm not the only one.  Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> @Panos:
>>>> Do you still experience slow download speed? I had no problem
>>>> yesterday from my home internet connection
>>> Thanks for asking. Yes, and it's been the darndest thing.  Not even my ISP
>>> could explain it.  It's been this way for more than a week, and persists
>>> this morning, even across multiple computers.
>>>
>>> I was able to find a workaround that demonstrates that it's not the
>>> livecode.com server per se:  I shelled into one of my VPSes in New Jersey
>>> and used wget to download the builds I needed - each took less than a
>>> minute there.  Then I copied them to my web folder, and on my local machine
>>> downloaded from that VPS - at normal speed.
>>>
>>> So to summarize what I've learned thus far:
>>>
>>> - It's not my computer: all computers here show this slow download
>>>
>>> - It's not your server: I can download from it to another computer
>>>   in a different geographic region with no delay.
>>>
>>> - It's not my local network setup: Peter has the same issue, and
>>>   downloading from my VPS is speedy.
>>>
>>> Given all this, my wild guess would be that this is something related to
>>> the CDN you're using (Cloudflare?), affecting only southern California, or
>>> maybe even more limited than that since Peter and I are less than about 20
>>> miles from one another.
>>>
>>> While Cloudflare's status page shows the Los Angeles area to be
>>> "Operational", a quick search at Google turned up a few discussions about
>>> issues in my area, the most recent I stumbled across being just 22 hours
>>> ago.
>>>
>>> The bigger mystery is that this has persisted as long as it has.  Most
>>> CDNs are super on top of things, and a multi-day issue is rare.
>>>
>>> At least I have a workaround for now, and if I learn anything more I'll
>>> pass it along.  In the meantime, if you hear of anything with your CDN it
>>> may be helpful to share.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Richard Gaskin
>>> Fourth World Systems
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