Developing Methods: Creating Scrolling groups larger than screen rect

J. Landman Gay jacque at
Sun Sep 24 11:26:27 EDT 2017

When you're editing a group, you're on a temporary card that represents the 
whole group but visually appears to be the card itself. What seems to be 
"outside" the group is actually inside the group currently being edited. 
When you stop editing, you see the group normally. If you leave editing 
mode, do you still see pasted objects outside the group?

Very tall groups have to be arranged by script, the way Mike Bonner 
described. It's sometimes easier to use relative locations rather than hard 
coded numbers:

set the top of control 4 to the bottom of control 3

Jacqueline Landman Gay         |     jacque at
HyperActive Software           |

On September 24, 2017 9:37:49 AM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via 
use-livecode <use-livecode at> wrote:

> Workin in 9.0.0 DP9 now. Old issues of editing groups seems to have gotten 
> worse. selections lines around objects continue to appear even if you have 
> select a different object, now the selection dashed lines remain on the 
> previously selected object and it's as if we shift selected two object, but 
> no, there is only 1 selected. when in group editing mode copy and paste 
> object, the objects are pasted outside the group on the top layers of the 
> card instead of in the group itself…
> At any rate… working with it…
> But I have a bigger question… How do you mobile pro develop scrolling 
> groups either vertical sliders or horizontal sliders, which are, but their 
> very nature, wider than the screen, or taller than the screen?
> e.g. if you have a group that is 1200 px tall and the card is 736h. and you 
> want to add objects to the bottom of the group, how do you go about it? If  
> you set the scroll of the group to some big number like 1200… it will only 
> scroll up to the bottom of the group (seems odd to me)  you don't get any 
> extra space below the last item. so if you go to edit at that point, the 
> group has no room below. one could temporarily increase the height of the 
> stack, but if you have controls on the bottom that may not work well. and 
> besides, you will run out of screen space anyway.
> I can set the top of the group to -500, now we have room on the screen 
> below the last rows of the group. but the IDE will not allow you to drag 
> out the height of the group to make more room for more objects. If I try to 
> edit the group, I can select and copy the objects in the last row, as noted 
> above, they are pasted outside the group.
> More struggle here than seems it should be.  But editing larger groups of 
> with many objects has always seemed to be a challenge for the IDE "since 
> forever"…
> How do you do it?  I would try do it programattically, but there is no 
> command like
> "copy fld "link-label to grp "portal-scroller" at x,y"
> which could b really useful in this context.
> Brahmanathswami
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