AW: load URL is broken in 8.1.4

[Mark Waddingham]

I don't think there is anyway we can deny that the transition from 6.x to 7.x caused a lot of regressions.

This is why we have a strict policy of handling maintenance releases now - i.e. we work very hard to ensure each maintenance version is strictly better than before.

I know of a number of users who have had similar difficulties moving from 6 straight to 8 - however, barring the occasional error (e.g. The backdrop fiasco and the load URL one you mention directly) 8.1.(x+1) has had less regressions relative to 6 - and no regressions relative to 8.1.x.

Also (as far as we can) regressions relative to older versions get very high priority in our bug fixing queue.

So things might not yet be perfect but I'd hope that everyone can see that we've made great strides (indeed, we've made good progress on fixing issues which have been around a lot longer recently - even back to the very early days of the MetaCard engine).

No-one likes encountering regressions - however in a system as complex and broad as ours they are often unavoidable.

Every one sees a different view of the elephant so to speak - and we try to act as quickly as we can when issues are reported (usually seeeing them fixed in the next maintenance release).

Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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> On 31 Jul 2017, at 12:27, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> I forgot my final question: Have you made similar experiences or is it only
> me and how do you handle this permanent hazard of regression bugs?
> Tiemo
> 
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> von Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
> Gesendet: Montag, 31. Juli 2017 11:16
> An: LiveCode User Liste senden <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
> Cc: Tiemo Hollmann TB <toolbook at kestner.de>
> Betreff: load URL is broken in 8.1.4
> 
> Hello,
> 
> For my automatic update mechanism I am downloading a zip file from a web
> server, extracting the zip file and starting the downloaded update.
> 
> I am doing this since years, without having changed anything in my code. Now
> in 8.1.4, Windows 10 this load URL downloads a "broken/corrupted" empty zip
> file, which breaks my whole update process. In 8.1.4 rc1 this still has
> worked and in 8.1.5 it seems to work again without any changes in my code or
> the zip file. I didn't tested yet 8.1.6 and 9.
> 
> I had done a minor change in my program, completely far off the download
> handler and just build a new standalone for a new CD production and thought
> I'll take the "stable" release 8.1.4 instead of the last build with 8.1.4
> rc1 for the new production. Because it was only a minor bug fix in my
> program and I only switched from 8.1.4 to 8.1.4 rc1 I didn't tested each and
> every possible feature of my program, before going into the production of a
> new release. Only by a great chance I discovered that my update process is
> broken. If I would have sold this new CD production, I would never have been
> able to update my program again, because the update process would have been
> broken.
> 
> In all the years working with RunRev/LiveCode I never have experienced so
> many, frequently regression bugs as in LC 8. I had at least 10-20 regression
> bugs in LC 8, since switching from 6.7. Almost in each single release
> candidate and each general release there are new regression bugs of old and
> common features so that it is a game of hazard to use a new release. I have
> no idea, what is going on behind the scenes in Edinborough, if it is related
> to the open source development, so that everybody can create regression
> bugs, but this isn't anymore a reliable software development. The complete
> responsibility is passed to us.
> 
> Sorry, but I am really pissed off and my trust in every new release has
> dropped to zero.
> 
> Tiemo
> 
> 
> 
> 
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