non-blocking http ... will tsnet end up in community?

Tom Glod tom at makeshyft.com
Tue Dec 19 15:13:48 EST 2017


Hi Matthias... thank you for your thoughts.

I think my post was less about my own needs for that feature .... but in
general I'm seeing that Web API's are getting more and more capable and
will be more and more used by developers going forward.  So being unable to
send more than one asyncronoys request to the same server is highly
limiting.

So if livecode has any hope that their platform will ever be used for a
serious and extensive open source project, this is a deal breaker.

As for me, I think I can work around this for my needs. .... for now.  Like
I said, I have no choice in using the community version, so I'm not
conflicted as to what to do .... just gotta go forward.

Thanks for your thoughts and Cheers,

Tom



On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 7:45 AM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Tom, please excuse for using the wrong name.
>
> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>
> > Am 19.12.2017 um 13:13 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>:
> >
> > Todd,
> > i understand your desire to have such a feature in the Community
> Edition, but I don´t think this will happen in near future.
> >
> > If i understood correctly then tsNET is a 3rd party product which
> Livecode Ltd. has acquired or however this is called. So they have paid
> money for that.
> >
> > The tsNet external is really a big win for us and i think it is just
> fair that this is only included in the commercial licenses.
> >
> > Why? Because there must be a difference between a free license and a
> paid license otherwise everyone would use the free one.
> > And there must be  a feature difference between different Indy and
> Business license t for the same reason.
> > Btw. Xojo does it the same.  The more you pay, the more you´ll get. With
> one exception, they are not offering a free version.
> >
> > LibURL does and did its job more or less well for years. So at least
> there is the possibility to do asnynchronous operations.
> >
> > Although i am a 1-man company and my revenues are less than $500,000 a
> year and although i have a lifetime Indy license  i
> > have subscribed for a business license just because of its features and
> the possibility to get priority support if ever needed.
> >
> > The indy license btw.allows only 1 seat per organisation. A Seat
> (regardless if Indy or Business) are for one named developer and
> > cannot be shared. If you need more seats you have to purchase a business
> license with the appropriate number of seats.
> > It seems not all customers are/were aware of these terms in the past.
> Otherwise Livecode Ltd. would not have sent out an email in October to all
> > Indy/Business customers with some information about the license terms
> and the requirement to sign a digital license agreement.
> >
> > What i would vote for is to add SFTP (synchronous) feature to the
> Community Edition to allow secure FTP transfers.
> >
> > Matthias
> >
> >
> >> Am 19.12.2017 um 00:50 schrieb Tom Glod via use-livecode <
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>>:
> >>
> >> Hi Everyone,
> >>
> >> I use the Community version for project, and recently I've been working
> >> with the LibURL Library to get some asynchronous server client
> >> communication going ...and if you've ever worked with that ...... its
> clear
> >> there is much room for improvement there.
> >>
> >> Though I have no choice what version to use, so I can only wait in
> >> patience, but I think for the long term health of the platform and to
> give
> >> it the modern robustness it needs, the tsnet library is going to have to
> >> become part of the community version.  Otherwise it will always lag
> behind
> >> from being able to use modern internet APIs in combination.
> >>
> >> Is this something we would have to crowd fund?
> >>
> >> Is there anything legally preventing that from happening?
> >>
> >> Thanks for any thoughts
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