Hackintosh

Mark Waddingham mark at livecode.com
Wed Aug 2 17:04:17 EDT 2017


Heh - I'm apologise for being slightly glib - and definitely off-topic there.

Although, I'd point out (because I'm a very pedantic person at times) - that there are always rules we can't change such as the rules of nature (e.g. Physics - although the rules evolve as we 'understand more' - or Mathematics (at least within zermelo-fraenkel set theory which is the predominant interpretation).

And this is 'me' speaking not CTO of LiveCode - which might be an important point I should make (perhaps I need an IANAL type acronym for that ;)).

In all good faith,

Mark.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Aug 2017, at 22:52, Erik Beugelaar - Solidit via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear Mark,
> 
> " At the end of the day, unless you believe in anarchy (which you might, I
> have no issue with that - particularly if you can explain to me how that
> works in practice ;)), some observance of rules is required - and there is a
> difference between discussing the rules (e.g. the meta level) which can be
> most enlightening; and the discussing of how to break them (which often gets
> quite boring in any specific case after a while - especially as plenty of
> other people have discussed them at length and in detail elsewhere) ;)"
> 
> Mark, It works in practice, please read:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPojltjv4M0
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPojltjv4M0
> 
> Off topic but to me of interest.
> 
> All the best,
> Erik
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
> Of Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
> Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 10:34 PM
> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
> Cc: Mark Waddingham <mark at livecode.com>
> Subject: Re: Hackintosh
> 
> Whilst that may be true - a significant part of LiveCode's business comes
> from the US... As does our support for Apple devices.
> 
> Of course, Apple probably don't care (why would they? Hackintoshes are not
> Macs). However, Apple did think it reasonable to outlaw anything other than
> Obj-C and JS (through the WebView) apps on iOS for a while. So let's not
> presume we can 'read' intent of such 'powerful' entities.
> 
> As I said there are other forums for discussing hackintosh creation - it is
> definitely off topic for this forum; so beyond a few links of elsewhere to
> look (which our helpful users have already supplied) I think this discussion
> has probably done all it needs to, hasn't it?
> 
> At the end of the day, unless you believe in anarchy (which you might, I
> have no issue with that - particularly if you can explain to me how that
> works in practice ;)), some observance of rules is required - and there is a
> difference between discussing the rules (e.g. the meta level) which can be
> most enlightening; and the discussing of how to break them (which often gets
> quite boring in any specific case after a while - especially as plenty of
> other people have discussed them at length and in detail elsewhere) ;)
> 
> Caution is sometimes the greatest approach anyone can take, if you actually
> want to effect change.
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
> Mark.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 2 Aug 2017, at 22:07, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Apple's EULA may not actually be legal or legally enforcable in a 
>> large number of territories where this Use-List is read.
>> 
>> Just seen Tim Cook "sucking the kneecaps" of China's one-party state's
> leaders and blethering anent "adhering to the law" re VPNs.
>> Nothing makes me despise anyone more than trying to justify adherence to
> laws of a totalitarian state.
>> 
>> Sometimes the law is an ass; as has been demonstrated by sensible lawyers
> time out of mind.
>> 
>> This kind of reaction makes me want to scream "Richard Stallman" in a very
> trenchant tones.
>> 
>> I also don't see how discussing how one might go about something has 
>> to be seen as a demonstration of an intention to carry out those actions .
> . .
>> 
>> . . . but then I don't live in a paranoid police state (Bulgaria had a 
>> patch of that and gave it up, just as some, previously open, states
> started on an opposite journey).
>> 
>> Of course in "parts west" they don't even need the full apparatus of a 
>> police-state any more as they have, through political correctness  
>> effectively erected what Mao Zedong ( a well-known advocate of democracy)
> termed "a dictatorship of the proletariat" where the people police
> themselves.
>> 
>> Anyway we don't need to worry about that when we have our own folk
> attempting to impose censorship nearer to home.
>> 
>> I have come up against this attitude in several places recently, the 
>> idea that a place is "safe and friendly" only when we are not allowed to
> express certain opinions.
>> 
>> That is the beginning of the end of proper, robust discussion and healthy
> creativity.
>> 
>> Richmond.
>> 
>>> On 8/2/17 6:56 pm, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
>>> We have a great community, having earned a reputation for providing a
> safe, friendly environment for learning LiveCode.
>>> 
>>> With that in mind, please remember that Apple's EULA for macOS requires
> that it be run only on "Apple-branded computers".
>>> 
>>> Discussions of using VMs on Mac hosts is great, useful for testing our
> apps on multiple OS versions.
>>> 
>>> But we probably don't want to have discussions of violating Apple's
> copyright as part of this community's permanent public archive.
>>> 
>>> There are other venues where such discussion can take place.  Here in
> this official LiveCode support venue, it may be better to follow the
> guidelines used for the Forums, in which we avoid discussions which may be
> construed as encouraging illegal activity.
>>> 
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