blockchain

Mike Kerner MikeKerner at roadrunner.com
Wed Aug 24 09:46:34 EDT 2016


And there goes the ACH settlement process and the cut that central banks
take from currency swaps.  Welcome to a new era.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Dan Brown <danoldboy at gmail.com> wrote:

> Four major world banks ( UBS, Deutsche Bank, Santander, and BNY Mellon
> ) are set to announce the creation of a new blockchain-based digital
> currency, and are hoping to make it the global standard for
> settlements.
>
> https://news.bitcoin.com/four-banks-create-new-digital-currency/
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:31 PM, David Bovill <david at viral.academy> wrote:
> > Thanks for the link!
> >
> > On 23 August 2016 at 20:00, Jerry Jensen <jerry at jhjensen.com> wrote:
> >
> >> IEEE is getting interested in blockchain technology. Here’s a basic
> >> article:
> >>
> >> http://theinstitute.ieee.org/technology-topics/computing/
> >> getting-linked-to-the-blockchain
> >>
> >> .Jerry J
> >>
> >> > On Aug 20, 2016, at 2:17 AM, David Bovill <david at viral.academy>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Mike that would be great. I'd like to get together a small group to
> >> > research together the integration of Livecode with blockchain -
> starting
> >> in
> >> > November. The format would be asynchronous work with some live
> >> > get-togethers.
> >> >
> >> > Involvement does not need to be super-geeky. It will be a research
> group,
> >> > so I'll collect links, podcasts and videos and present these within a
> >> > Livecode environment - so there is a need for media, writing and
> research
> >> > skills and we will be working together on a publication within
> Livecode.
> >> > This publication will also be online and on the decentralised web.
> >> > Super-geeks with a knowledge of Javascript and Livecode are also more
> >> than
> >> > welcome.
> >> >
> >> > If anyone else is interested just email me here or off-list, and I'll
> >> send
> >> > out information when the dates are confirmed.
> >> >
> >> > On 18 August 2016 at 13:44, Mike Kerner <MikeKerner at roadrunner.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> James, I'm always interested in what other folks are doing, and I'd
> >> like to
> >> >> hear more about the setup.  David, I'd definitely be interested.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:20 AM, David Bovill <david at viral.academy>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Yes - I've been interested in Livecode and blockchain for a couple
> of
> >> >> years
> >> >>> now. I've been following Ethereum since the beginning - we tried to
> >> make
> >> >> a
> >> >>> documentary about the project and I went to DevCon 1 in Berlin as
> the
> >> >> team
> >> >>> started it's development.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> There is an interesting online Hackathon in November if any
> Livecoders
> >> >> are
> >> >>> interested in taking part / forming a team?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 18 August 2016 at 01:27, Richard Gaskin <
> ambassador at fourthworld.com
> >> >
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Jerry Daniels wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> On Aug 17, 2016, 5:12 PM -0500, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> What is the business benefit for this application to go P2P
> rather
> >> >>>>>> than client-server?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Richard, cost savings, security, privacy. Costs are drastically
> >> >>>>> reduced without hosting and its (hidden) labor/maintenance. Just
> >> >>>>> think about the long record of exploitation of hosted SQL data.
> >> >>>>> Not in the models were discussing here.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I like the idea* of P2P for some applications, but with the
> explosion
> >> >> of
> >> >>>> cloud services the client-server model seems to have merit as well.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On the one hand, there are the risks of managing (hopefully
> redundant)
> >> >>>> server farms.  On the other hand there are the risks of having
> every
> >> >>> client
> >> >>>> also be a server, but without a team of professionals hardening and
> >> >>>> monitoring it.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> All systems are hackable.  Ideally prevention, monitoring, and
> >> recovery
> >> >>>> are budgeted for in the business plan with any architecture.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I believe there's a role for both client-server and P2P, and
> federated
> >> >>>> models as well.  Each has its own benefits and tradeoffs; like
> >> >>> programming
> >> >>>> languages, there'll always be more because use cases where they can
> >> add
> >> >>>> value only grow and diversify.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Back to blockchains, from my reading it's becoming clear that the
> >> >>>> distributed trust is a compelling feature, along with the increased
> >> >> speed
> >> >>>> with which transaction ledgers can be conveyed faithfully.  Like
> the
> >> >>> early
> >> >>>> days of railroads, networks outside of Bitcoin employ different
> >> >>> standards,
> >> >>>> each with its own kinks to work out but worth the effort. Over
> time it
> >> >>>> seems likely they'll impact global quality of life as
> significantly as
> >> >>> the
> >> >>>> invention of compound interest.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Lots to learn....
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Richard, Mike...sorry for my butting in here. Feel free to ignore
> my
> >> >>>>> interruption.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Au contraire, mon ami.  Always good to have you around.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> * I've been paranoid for years, and enjoying Mr. Robot has only
> made
> >> >> that
> >> >>>> worse. :)  For the last several years I've run my main laptop and
> >> >>>> workstation with no open ports (easy to do with Ubuntu since it
> ships
> >> >>> that
> >> >>>> way; took some work to harden my Mac). This has meant that as
> eagerly
> >> >> as
> >> >>> I
> >> >>>> used to visit openp2p.com and read the other things, these days
> P2P
> >> is
> >> >>> an
> >> >>>> interesting set of ideas but not something I focus on; all
> >> >> collaboration
> >> >>>> systems here use only outbound connections.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> Richard Gaskin
> >> >>>> Fourth World Systems
> >> >>>> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the
> Web
> >> >>>> ____________________________________________________________
> ________
> >> >>>> Ambassador at FourthWorld.com
> http://www.FourthWorld.com
> >> >>>>
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On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth
On the second day, God created the oceans.
On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours,
   and did a little diving.
And God said, "This is good."



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