blockchain

Dan Brown danoldboy at gmail.com
Wed Aug 24 09:31:14 EDT 2016


Four major world banks ( UBS, Deutsche Bank, Santander, and BNY Mellon
) are set to announce the creation of a new blockchain-based digital
currency, and are hoping to make it the global standard for
settlements.

https://news.bitcoin.com/four-banks-create-new-digital-currency/



On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:31 PM, David Bovill <david at viral.academy> wrote:
> Thanks for the link!
>
> On 23 August 2016 at 20:00, Jerry Jensen <jerry at jhjensen.com> wrote:
>
>> IEEE is getting interested in blockchain technology. Here’s a basic
>> article:
>>
>> http://theinstitute.ieee.org/technology-topics/computing/
>> getting-linked-to-the-blockchain
>>
>> .Jerry J
>>
>> > On Aug 20, 2016, at 2:17 AM, David Bovill <david at viral.academy> wrote:
>> >
>> > Mike that would be great. I'd like to get together a small group to
>> > research together the integration of Livecode with blockchain - starting
>> in
>> > November. The format would be asynchronous work with some live
>> > get-togethers.
>> >
>> > Involvement does not need to be super-geeky. It will be a research group,
>> > so I'll collect links, podcasts and videos and present these within a
>> > Livecode environment - so there is a need for media, writing and research
>> > skills and we will be working together on a publication within Livecode.
>> > This publication will also be online and on the decentralised web.
>> > Super-geeks with a knowledge of Javascript and Livecode are also more
>> than
>> > welcome.
>> >
>> > If anyone else is interested just email me here or off-list, and I'll
>> send
>> > out information when the dates are confirmed.
>> >
>> > On 18 August 2016 at 13:44, Mike Kerner <MikeKerner at roadrunner.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> James, I'm always interested in what other folks are doing, and I'd
>> like to
>> >> hear more about the setup.  David, I'd definitely be interested.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:20 AM, David Bovill <david at viral.academy>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Yes - I've been interested in Livecode and blockchain for a couple of
>> >> years
>> >>> now. I've been following Ethereum since the beginning - we tried to
>> make
>> >> a
>> >>> documentary about the project and I went to DevCon 1 in Berlin as the
>> >> team
>> >>> started it's development.
>> >>>
>> >>> There is an interesting online Hackathon in November if any Livecoders
>> >> are
>> >>> interested in taking part / forming a team?
>> >>>
>> >>> On 18 August 2016 at 01:27, Richard Gaskin <ambassador at fourthworld.com
>> >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Jerry Daniels wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Aug 17, 2016, 5:12 PM -0500, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> What is the business benefit for this application to go P2P rather
>> >>>>>> than client-server?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Richard, cost savings, security, privacy. Costs are drastically
>> >>>>> reduced without hosting and its (hidden) labor/maintenance. Just
>> >>>>> think about the long record of exploitation of hosted SQL data.
>> >>>>> Not in the models were discussing here.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I like the idea* of P2P for some applications, but with the explosion
>> >> of
>> >>>> cloud services the client-server model seems to have merit as well.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On the one hand, there are the risks of managing (hopefully redundant)
>> >>>> server farms.  On the other hand there are the risks of having every
>> >>> client
>> >>>> also be a server, but without a team of professionals hardening and
>> >>>> monitoring it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> All systems are hackable.  Ideally prevention, monitoring, and
>> recovery
>> >>>> are budgeted for in the business plan with any architecture.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I believe there's a role for both client-server and P2P, and federated
>> >>>> models as well.  Each has its own benefits and tradeoffs; like
>> >>> programming
>> >>>> languages, there'll always be more because use cases where they can
>> add
>> >>>> value only grow and diversify.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Back to blockchains, from my reading it's becoming clear that the
>> >>>> distributed trust is a compelling feature, along with the increased
>> >> speed
>> >>>> with which transaction ledgers can be conveyed faithfully.  Like the
>> >>> early
>> >>>> days of railroads, networks outside of Bitcoin employ different
>> >>> standards,
>> >>>> each with its own kinks to work out but worth the effort. Over time it
>> >>>> seems likely they'll impact global quality of life as significantly as
>> >>> the
>> >>>> invention of compound interest.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Lots to learn....
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Richard, Mike...sorry for my butting in here. Feel free to ignore my
>> >>>>> interruption.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Au contraire, mon ami.  Always good to have you around.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> * I've been paranoid for years, and enjoying Mr. Robot has only made
>> >> that
>> >>>> worse. :)  For the last several years I've run my main laptop and
>> >>>> workstation with no open ports (easy to do with Ubuntu since it ships
>> >>> that
>> >>>> way; took some work to harden my Mac). This has meant that as eagerly
>> >> as
>> >>> I
>> >>>> used to visit openp2p.com and read the other things, these days P2P
>> is
>> >>> an
>> >>>> interesting set of ideas but not something I focus on; all
>> >> collaboration
>> >>>> systems here use only outbound connections.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Richard Gaskin
>> >>>> Fourth World Systems
>> >>>> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
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