Commercial Indy License for HTML5

Mark Schonewille m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com
Sat Jul 19 02:51:06 EDT 2014


Obviously, Peter. Brahmanathaswami and I are well aware of it. The  
point, however, is that if you have the commercial license, you're  
still releasing the source, but in obfuscated, rather than compiled,  
form. So, the question remains, why would one buy a commercial license?

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Op 19-jul-2014, om 2:37 heeft Peter W A Wood het volgende geschreven:

> Hi Mark
>
> Surely the difference between the open source and commercial  
> versions is that under the the terms of the GPL if you distribute a  
> LiveCode generated HTML5 application you must make the LiveCode  
> source available.
>
> Regards
>
> Peter
>
> On 18 Jul 2014, at 22:24, Mark Schonewille <m.schonewille at economy-x- 
> talk.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the reply, Kevin. I'm glad that no CGI engine is used.
>>
>> I did read that the engine will be "compiled to JavaScript". The  
>> website also says that no plug-in is needed and that the app will  
>> run in the browser. Both statements say nothing about the server.
>>
>> The website shows "no install" in big letters and states that the  
>> end-user doesn't need to install any software. Nowhere it is said  
>> that the developer doesn't need to install any software on the  
>> server. It might help if the website explicitly said that no CGI  
>> will have to be installed and that only the HTML5 files, (text  
>> files and perhaps media files), need to be copied onto a server.  
>> Pehaps it is all clear to native speakers of English, but a more  
>> explicit wording of the website just might convince some non- 
>> native speakers who are now reluctant to support the HTML5  
>> initiative.
>>
>> I still wonder about the closed nature of the HTML5 files. It is  
>> probably possible to write a converter, which converts the JS to  
>> something readable. Even without such a converter, one would be  
>> able to download the files and put them on another web server,  
>> perhaps with a few small modifications. Therefore I too wonder  
>> what a commercial HTML5 license can do for a company. I'm curious  
>> what Heather will answer Brahmanathaswami on this matter.
>>
>> Obviously, obfuscating and licensing are two different things. In  
>> my previous e-mail, I only meant to say that obfuscation and  
>> licensing could offer opportunities that make closed-source  
>> licensing worthwhile for both RunRev and LiveCode users.
>>
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>>
>> Mark Schonewille
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>> On 17 jul 2014, at 22:35, Kevin Miller wrote:
>>
>>> This has been set out on the web page for HTML5 and on the video.
>>>
>>> It is not a CGI. It renders client side in the browser, without a  
>>> plug in.
>>>
>>> Technically yes, you can look at the JavaScript in a browser.  
>>> However
>>> given the complexity of it + obfuscation you won¹t realistically  
>>> be able
>>> to make much sense of it. There is a whole world of difference  
>>> between
>>> obfuscated/unreadable JavaScript protected by copyright and the  
>>> GPL, which
>>> requires you to upload the stacks for your entire application with
>>> readable, editable and redistributable code.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>> Kevin Miller ~ kevin at livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/
>>> LiveCode: Everyone can code
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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