"Be This Guy"

Richmond richmondmathewson at gmail.com
Sat Oct 12 15:18:51 EDT 2013


On 10/12/2013 09:56 PM, Ray wrote:
> I don't know Richmond - I kind of disagree with you, albeit 
> respectfully so.  You've apparently taken some time to write down your 
> concerns here and that's to be respected.  I'd just create a junk mail 
> filter and be done with it.

That will block out the 'background hum' but it won't stop others 
getting a false impression about computer programming.

>
> Actually, I'd kind of like to see the masses get into scripting more. 

I'm all in favour of more people learning how to program computers.

What I am not in favour of is giving people the false impression that it 
does involve quite a bit of time adf effort.

> I've always found it fascinating and I don't view myself as a brain at 
> all.  I don't even know what the word prognathous

Probably best to reach for the dictionary :P  I don't think, last time I 
looked, that knowing what the word 'prognathous' meant was one of the 
prerequisites to label oneself as brainy.

> means :-)
>
> Best wishes and please stay with the community as it changes along 
> with the relentless passage of time.

Oh, you can be sure I will, and continue to make fairly full-frontal 
assaults like this one :)

>
> Ray Horsley
> LinkIt! Software
>
> On 10/12/2013 2:49 PM, Richmond wrote:
>> Why do I feel that RunRev have been scraping the barrel recently?
>>
>> I wonder if the, unintended, result of their open source initiative 
>> is that their income has
>> dropped considerably; hence the rather childish adverts.
>>
>> My e-mail inboxes (I have 2 e-mail addresses that are personal and 
>> one for my Devawriter)
>> seem to get at least one RunRev advert a day, and, as such, I don't 
>> mind that.
>>
>> But there is something I don't like; the implication of these adverts 
>> seems to be that any old moron
>> can write computer programs ; something that is palpably not true. 
>> And my ego feels bruised by
>> the corollary that if any old moron can write computer programs with 
>> Livecode then I must be any old moron (and I'm not; I'm a special 
>> type of moron in a category of my own).
>>
>> Certainly that "BE THIS GUY" (Who would you rather be? and the answer 
>> is 'anybody else') advert does not
>> do RunRev many favours; it comes out of the British 'dumb everything 
>> down to the stage where its just simply insulting' school of thought 
>> that seems to be pretty well all pervasive throughout the British Isles.
>>
>> This started with the slightly prognathous girl on the new RunRev 
>> website who is spacing out with her
>> mall-rat friends (Scottish valley girls; the open sewer that runs 
>> between Edinburgh and Glasgow, starting
>> with Westerhailes [heroin capital of the world] and moving through 
>> Hamilton [Buckfast tonic wine capital
>> of the world]; 2 national disgraces and social bombsites whichever 
>> way you look at them) and has moved slowly down-market from there 
>> ("'down market' from Westerhailes" I hear you ask; well, I did see 
>> somebody injecting themselves with heroin in a carpark right 
>> smackdown by the river Tay in Dundee in 2003; so, if one thinks about 
>> parts of Lochee and Hilltown, it is just about possible).
>>
>> As somebody who has learnt about 9 programming languages (and most of 
>> the people on the RunRev use-list will better me there), I am well 
>> aware that learning to program is NOT for any old moron, and to imply so
>> with "Tracy Beaker on Speed" types of adverts is disingenuous insofar 
>> as it gives any moronic programmer wannabees out there a distinctly 
>> wrong impression, and it will drive away more intelligent and 
>> motivated typoes towards programming languages/IDEs/packages that 
>> don't promote themselves through kiddy-crap.
>>
>> The whole thing reminds me of a Steve Martin film called "The Jerk", 
>> where, at one point, Steve Martin, playing the epynomous lead 
>> character, is drinking some multicolored cocktail out of a glass with 
>> a paper umbrella in
>> it, and pointing at an advert the same cocktail saying "be somebody".
>>
>> "With 8 x 1 hour long lessons and a 1 hour 1-1 Skype Session and a 
>> Live Q&A Session every week you could produce the #1 selling app."
>>
>> Possibly; but not if you are a person who wants to "be somebody" in 
>> the way the advert presents things.
>>
>> RunRev produce a fantastic product; a product that can produce simple 
>> Powerpoint-like slideshows to incredibly complicated stuff (my 
>> Devawriter being about 25% along that line); so advertising Livecode 
>> like
>> this is just doing RunRev a disservice.
>>
>> ------
>>
>> Jump on me.
>>
>> Agree.
>>
>> Disagree.
>>
>> BUT; Please, don't keep quiet.  I do feel that as parts of what 
>> RunRev choose to call a 'community' and
>> like to tell us that we have some sort of say and input on what their 
>> company does, we should voice our opinions in this respect (as well 
>> as all the others).
>>
>> ------
>>
>> Richmond.
>>
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