[OT] A tale of App Store rejection

Robert Sneidar slylabs13 at me.com
Sun Jan 20 17:10:26 EST 2013

Hi Andre. Respectfully I agree to disagree. My iPhone has never been compromised. My Mac laptop has. I think what apple is asking you to do as a developer is not egregious. A few features and off you go. Apple is not saying here, "damn you and you app we will never let it see the light of day!!!" They are saying, "can you make more utilitarian and useful to the general market?" Why is that pissing so many people off in the name of freedom? I don't get it. It seems some, not you I think, have a bone to pick with apple, and this seems an easy target. 

Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Calvary Chapel CM
Sent from iPhone

On Jan 20, 2013, at 13:56, Andre Garzia <andre at andregarzia.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Robert Sneidar <slylabs13 at me.com> wrote:
>> While I agree that having to firewall off our personal devices is very
>> inconvenient, lets remember who the true villains are here. Identity
>> thieves, indiscriminate spammers, social engineers, etc. yes children, the
>> world is a bad, bad place. I know some think it would be better if we all
>> just tore down our defenses and laid down our arms. Trouble is we won't
>> all. So we build towers and we defend ourselves. I sleep better at night
>> knowing I can buy an app for the one device I have that every villain in
>> the world would love to get control of, knowing that no villain has. Just
>> my humble opinion that's all.
> Robert,
> Apple practices and walled gardens give you no protection against all the
> thieves and criminals you quoted on your email. All it does it provide tiny
> security and a lot of problems for developers. Security comes from open
> source software that can be audited and checked out. Identity protection
> comes from free, open and safe identity schemes and not from Apple single
> password accounts. Apple users are not safe. They feel safe but they are
> not. You may feel safe buying from the app store but the real villains to
> quote will not use trojan apps to steal your stuff when they can sniff the
> cheese out of wifi and 3G connections. You want to rob identities? You
> don't rob each person, you crack as web service such as skype and steal
> user data.
> The fake security provided by the app store mentality hurts developers and
> curbs your freedom to have whatever you want on your device. Its your
> device!!! Its not Apple device, it is yours and yet you can't install
> things yourself. Imagine this was your computer? Remember when Apple
> decided that the app store would not accept any language besides XCode?
> Remember how that halted RunRev and caused lots of money loss for everyone
> involved? Thats what you get when you don't control you device.
> This has nothing to do with security. This is pure about money. If there is
> no way besides de app store to install software, then apple guarantees the
> 30% share.
> And if you fear from identity and credit thieves, you should not worry
> about your mobile device and start worrying about the hundreds or thousands
> of companies that have sensitive data stored about you and that are not up
> to date with their security because that is the spot where your identity
> will be robbed.
> I am glad I am a WebOS/Android user and that I use Linux as well because I
> know that I am in control.
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