Alternatives to SiteGrinder?

Pete pete at mollysrevenge.com
Mon Sep 26 12:19:01 EDT 2011


Darn, I was just getting excited about this until I read the last few words
- is there anything similar for OS X?
Pete
Molly's Revenge <http://www.mollysrevenge.com>




On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Bernard Devlin <bdrunrev at gmail.com> wrote:

> There is also NetObjects Fusion (or Essentials, which is free).  If
> you have a clever enough server-side templating system, it is possible
> to simply drop re-designed output from NOF into server-side folders,
> thus using a drag and drop tool to provide the GUI portions of a
> dynamically-generated web application, with minimal adaptation of the
> generated HTML/CSS.  Designing/constructing the web page is half the
> battle - integrating revised designs into a web application is the
> other half.
>
> I believe it was Richard who pointed out many moons ago, that HTML was
> never meant to be hand-coded - and with the plethora of complexities
> that have arisen in the past 15 years or so, including CSS, I'm
> inclined to believe more and more that is the case.  Every time I see
> people discussing the complexities of CSS rules I feel like slashing
> my wrists with a serrated knife.  The astonishing thing is a) that
> there are so a few tools that make the production of HTML/CSS easy, b)
> that the most famous of these tools are so complex that it is probably
> easier to hand-code the HTML/CSS rather than learn the tool (I've
> found it easier to learn multiple enterprise, development environments
> than to learn Dreamweaver, etc.)
>
> NOF is by no means perfect.  But it is about 10x simpler to use than
> the Adobe tools.  And there is a free version (I have not used that;
> my understanding it lacks some of the features of the paid version).
> http://netobjects.com/html/essentials.html  And, of course, it is
> windows only.
>
> Bernard.
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Kee Nethery <kee at kagi.com> wrote:
> > Are there other GUI tools that are a tad less pricy than Photoshop and
> SiteGrinder? Something that I can drop and drag GUI elements and have it
> create CSS and HTML? If I have the HTML and CSS, I can have RevServer
> "create" the HTML with the data in it.
>
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