[OT] Apple at it again
bobs at twft.com
Thu Feb 17 13:19:49 EST 2011
I may have given you the impression that I favored Hitler and what he did. I do not. I just know how a country of good people can be deceived and follow after what seems to be a good thing, because the current situation seems to be improved, but in the end turns out to be a horrible nightmare. My real point, which I must have made very badly, was that we should all consider not just where we are going as nations and societies, but how we get there.
On Feb 17, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Richmond wrote:
> On 02/17/2011 07:23 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote:
>> On 17 Feb 2011, at 17:36, Bob Sneidar wrote:
>>> Heh heh. The Germans loved Hitler! He took Germany from a faltering bankrupt country full of starving people and made them a great nation.
>> No. He destroyed a recouping economy and restarted the war that was deemed to be the last one ever needed. Also, there was no "the Germans" (and still isn't) as implied by you.
> A certain percentage of the Germans voted for Hitler because the country was in a bad state and, at
> that point, he seemed to offer a way out. Of those who voted:
> 1. A large proportion had no idea of what he would subsequently do.
> 2. A lot more were hypnotised by the razzmatazz, the "sexy" uniforms and the organisation.
> I don't think any Germans "loved" Hitler; what I do think is that a huge number of Germans
> were BRAINWASHED by Hitler.
> Now, if we examine the Stanley Milgram experiments (whic has already been done on the Use-List)
> we can see that Americans are just as susceptible to brainwashing and peer pressure as the
> Germans. I suspect that any set of human beings in the "right" place at the "right" time could
> go the same way.
> So; while blaming the Germans for what Hitler did is all jolly fashionable and so on, it is a load
> of old tosh insofar as the vast majority of the German nation (and an awful lot of other people
> as well) were suffering from a sort of collective madness for about 7-8 years; the consequences
> of which were just as devastating for them as for most of the other people involved in the World War.
> And Bob's "Heh, heh" only serves to let us know that his "The Germans loved Hitler" is on the level
> and as well thought out as the sort of stupid pronouncements I used to come out with when I was 7
> years old.
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