LiveCode Personal Banner

Richmond richmondmathewson at
Tue Nov 16 06:02:06 EST 2010

On 11/16/2010 12:23 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote:
> Hi from Beautiful Brittany,
> Terry Judd wrote :
>> What about creating a personal 'player' application that starts up
>> automatically and is just left running in the background.
> That's what I do. I have my favourite stack names in a tiny list,
> displayed by a "" loaded in my Mac Startup, sitting in
> a corner of my screen (OK - so I have a "20 iMac and a second
> "24 screen, so I have plenty of space !).
> My Favourite stacks load in 1 second. So much for my own personal use.
> As for the 10 second banner on standalones, I imagine that RunRev needs
> the publicity, to try and increase its User Base. I always learned that
> it is not publicity that sells a product, but the satisfied users.
> I spend quite some time with my friends giving glowing reports about how
> I use RunRev, and what I do with it. They are always impressed, 
> especially
> when they see it all on screen. Whether they buy the product is a 
> different
> problem. I don't know many people who do, want to, or will ever, program,
> however enticing the product is. RunRev is a niche product, the User Base
> will always be limited. Hypercard was enticing, but LiveCode is SO 
> powerful,
> and SO extensive, that it can switch off amateurs in 30 seconds flat !

That is something I must flatly disagree with.

If one tells a would-be "hobby" user ALL the capabilities of RR/LC it will
make them switch off.

If one shows a would-be "hobby" user how simple a matter it is to get
a relatively straight-forward program up-and-running they will be dead
keen on RR/LC very quickly indeed.

I have shown 7-10 year old kids how to make calculator programs (i.e. +, 
-, * and /)
and had them quickly tackling slightly more complicated things: if I had 
wobbling-on about database connectivity they would have been running for the
door faster than you can say "Livecode".

> FMPOV, the people who stand to gain the most from the LiveCode Banner, 
> are
> professional programmers (quite a lot floating on this forum) who will 
> get
> requests from people who would like to see their "problem" turned into 
> an "app",
> and are prepared to put some money up for it.
> If you are an amateur LiveCode user, skate around the problem. If you are
> a professional LiveCode user, thank RunRev for opening your potential to
> make some more money. How many of you already have your own "Site" 
> banner ?
> Instead of moaning, why don't you persuade RunRev to set up a list of 
> program
> developers on the RunRev site (with their speciality and site address) !
> Charge them $10 a year - they'll jump at it ! Then, everybody will be 
> happy .. :>)
> -Francis
> "Nothing should ever be done for the first time !"
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