AW: OT: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported?

Tiemo Hollmann TB toolbook at kestner.de
Mon Feb 19 12:01:15 EST 2007


Thank you Trevor, very good informations!
Tiemo

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> Von: use-revolution-bounces at lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
> bounces at lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Trevor DeVore
> Gesendet: Montag, 19. Februar 2007 17:40
> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: OT: Quicktime and which codec ist best supported?
> 
> On Feb 18, 2007, at 3:37 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
> 
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I am new to Revolution and Quicktime-Video. I have read the
> > archives, but
> > still unsure about the right way for video. I produce offline content,
> > distributed on CD / DVD-ROM
> >
> > 1. With Revolution build-in player I can only play .mov - right?
> 
> Any QuickTime support file actually.  QuickTime .mov files are just
> wrappers around audio/video/... tracks.  You could play .mp3 files
> for example.
> 
> > 2. As mov is only a container format I know that I can use
> > different codecs
> > with mov. Best results when testing produced the Sorenson 3 codec.
> > I tested
> > also with SorensonTM ( little less), Apple MPEG 4 (almost as good),
> > Apple
> > Cinepac (bad quality) and Apple Planar (best quality but incredible
> > giant
> > file size).
> >
> > My question is, which codec comes with Quicktime installer, or what
> > codec
> > can I assume on customer machine?
> 
> This chart may prove useful:
> 
> <http://www.simnet.is/klipklap/quicktime/>
> 
> > 4. Are there differences of quicktime installation between Apple and
> > Windows, beside quicktime on apple is preinstalled?
> 
> Some differences.  For example, the Windows version can't play Quartz
> Composer or PDF files.  I'm not sure if the Apple Lossless code works
> on Windows either.  For what you are doing you should be safe though.
> 
> > 5. If e.g. the Sorenson codec doesn't come with Quicktime, can I
> > install the
> > Sorenson codec additional to quicktime on customer machine and
> > quicktime
> > will grab it, if I encoded my mov with Sorenson?
> 
> You can manually install codecs into QuickTimes folder and the next
> time you launch Rev the codec can be used.
> 
> > 6. I encoded movs on one of my machines and playing on the other
> > machine
> > showed only "LSD-like colored blur", though on both machines
> > quicktime 7.1.3
> > (Windows) is installed. So there are obvious more factors, as
> > quicktime
> > version and codec to harmonize - what?
> 
> We would probably need more details on the two machines, settings you
> used, etc.
> 
> > 7. Which codec is the best approach with best quality and best
> > compatibility
> > when using mov?
> 
> As for compatibility (I don't work in video compression) just decide
> what version of QT you are going to support and go from there.  You
> can use the chart I pointed you to to make a decision or manually
> install a codec if it is a 3rd party one.
> 
> > 8. As I have read on Apples quicktime site, I need an agreement
> > from Apple
> > to distribute the player with my application and have to put their
> > logo on
> > my product. Do you have any experiences with that procedure and
> > restriction?
> 
> In my experience it has been very easy to get the agreement in
> place.  Just make sure you understand what Apple expects from you and
> that you are willing to comply.  The folks I've dealt with have
> always been very helpful.
> 
> > 9. Did anyone tried to play avi or swf in revolution. I am not yet
> > so far to
> > use a shell execute, but I could think that could be an approach.
> > But I
> > don't know, if you have the chance to use controls / methods with a
> > called
> > exe, so that I can control an external player from within
> > revolution (stop,
> > pause,play,step, get mediastatus,.)
> 
> QuickTime supports up to SWF version 5 which isn't super useful.
> Plus, QuickTime 7 made some changes in how SWF is handled in QT.
> Users have to enable SWF playback manually now (security issues
> perhaps, Apple has commented that I know of).
> 
> You can play back AVI/WMV on Windows in Revolution using Media
> Control Interface (MCI) commands and get satisfactory results.  You
> can also play WMV on Mac:
> 
> <http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/wmcomponents.mspx>
> 
> One thing with about MCI on Windows to be aware of though - we
> recently came across some Dell laptops (wide screen) that lock up
> whenever you try to issue MCI commands.  This happens in Revolution
> and Media Player so it isn't a Rev specific problem.  These computers
> were up to date with the latest video drivers.  We are experimenting
> with a DirectShow external right now as that gets around the issue.
> 
> 
> --
> Trevor DeVore
> Blue Mango Learning Systems
> www.bluemangolearning.com    -    www.screensteps.com
> trevor at bluemangolearning.com
> 
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