revolutionary.dan at gmail.com
Mon Sep 25 18:54:34 EDT 2006
It feels to me like this discussion has tended to drift into an either-or
when I think both-and is perhaps a more realistic and useful viewpoint.
Rev should indeed have a usable, as-bug-free-as-possible IDE out of the box.
And the out-of-the-box experience needs dramatic improvement.
But there are numerous styles of development being used. It is all but
impossible to expect that all or even most Rev users would find any IDE
suitable across the board. The multi-palette, separated-tool approach taken
by RR is one that most VB programmers can identify with. The single-window,
tabbed approach not only to scripting but to property editing and other work
that Daniels & Mara takes is vastly preferable to folks who llike an
integrated IDE (which includes a lot of the Big Player Tools for other
languages, such as Eclipse and Visual Studio [depending on settings as I
I really prefer Galaxy. But my experiences with Rev 2.7.x on OS X have
been...shall we say...a bit adventuresome for my taste. So I couldn't even
use Galaxy until Jerry's recent release for 2.6.1, which is where I still do
all my development work as I test and monitor the 2.7 base.
Bottom line: there is no bottom line. Choice and diversity are good things.
I don't see a need to create an either-or situation.
But maybe that's just me being mellow for a change. :-)
On 9/25/06, Jerry Daniels <jerry at daniels-mara.com> wrote:
> I'm having fun, so we got that part working. The chocolate and the
> money must have been sent by USP, but they'll get here, too!
> I think you're right...diversity is good for evolution and growth.
> Jerry Daniels
> Tool makers for the 21st century
> On Sep 25, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
> > On Sep 25, 2006, at 1:57 PM, Josh Mellicker wrote:
> >> But, it seems like the Rev user base is too small to justify two
> >> teams working on IDEs...
> > I like the idea of competing directions. Encouraging notes, money,
> > and occasional chocolate or books tend to encourage good ideas.
> > Mostly money.
> > I also like the idea of Jerry making Big Bucks and having Lots of
> > Fun, and would hope that the user base is not to small for that.
> > A market is such that it will automatically handle the
> > justification question.
> > Dar
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