Morfik

chris bohnert chris at altuit.com
Sat Dec 2 01:33:24 EST 2006


Brian,

JavascriptCore and DOM support in general are slow and unreliable.  Its
gotten better in the last 10 months but Apples Javascript implementation  is
still not up to snuff when compared to Firefox or even IE.

This is clearly evident on the webkit list and amongst a myriad of AJAX
toolkits that support Firefox and IE out of the shoot and don't add safari
support till months later.  ACID2 compliance is certainly a measure of
achievement but its definetely not the only yard stick worth looking at when
we're discussing AJAX application performance.

--
cb

On 12/1/06, Brian Yennie <briany at qldlearning.com> wrote:
>
> What's with the Apple bashing, really? Mozilla is NOT the standard,
> the standard is the standard. Konqueror (on which Safari is based) is
> open source also, and no less compliant. Opera is probably the most
> compliant browser out there, and Safari was the first to pass the
> Acid2 test.
>
> There are no compliant browsers, period. Opera, FireFox and Safari
> all have high levels of compatibility but they aren't all the same.
> As a result, it still matters what browsers you test against. About
> the only certain thing is that you'll spend at least half of your
> time dealing with IE if you hope to be browser independent.
>
> Compliancy definitely has a lot of gray area because it's hideously
> complex to achieve, but saying that you'd expect Apple to produce
> something that nobody else has sounds like sour grapes. Even though
> it's a tired subject, it's also pretty hard to ignore the impact of
> IE pretty much destroying the efficiency of web developers seeking
> browser independence.
>
> > Or...
> > putting it another way...
> >
> > You'd think in this day and age, Apple would make Safari a compliant
> > browser, especially since Mozilla Firefox is open source, works on
> > Macs and
> > complies to the latest standards (perhaps it may even be considered
> > the
> > standard at this point).
> >
> > Guess it depends upon one's viewpoint. ;-)
> >
>
>
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