On Aug 2, 2005, at 6:32 PM, John Vokey wrote: > Nope. Thumbsize is 11. One other strange change: a grey bar > occurs a few pixels below the slider that doesn't appear with any > previous version of OS X. Bug 3043 has been posted in BugZilla to get this fixed. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com