LC Built Apps held Hostage, Runtime execution rent - looked at FAQ

[Matthias Rebbe]

I do not see a problem here.
LC Server scripts are normal textfiles that can be edited with a text editor.
Why should they stop running. If you cancel your hosting contract you can copy your scripts to any other web server that has LC Server installed. If the other webserver does not have LC Server installed, you could install a LC Server community release on that server.
The only thing that could be is that your scripts make use of features from a newer release of LC Server that are not available in the (community) version of LC Server that is installed on your new web server.


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> Am 30.12.2025 um 11:33 schrieb Jacques Clavel via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Thank you Curry for these clarifications.
> 
> I have a subsidiary question :
> 
> What about LC scripts on server (LC hosting) ?
> 
> 
> I have subscribed in august 2019 a « LiveCode Hosting 10 Year With Support
> and Backups » (up to august 2029)
> 
> 
> The terms of the contract are :
> 
> « LiveCode Server comes pre-installed for you to use on your hosting
> account. This enables you to embed <?lc> tags in your html code and execute
> commands in near English syntax on pages with a .irev or .lc file
> extension. »
> 
> Will my server side scripts written with LC classic stop to run if I don’t
> renew my licence (for example after 2027) ?
> 
> Jacques CLAVEL
> 
>> Le lun. 29 déc. 2025 à 19:48, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> a écrit :
>> 
>> Bob Sneidar:
>>> This has already been addressed long ago ad nauseam.
>> 
>> Bob = false. Kill switch was not discussed much, if any.
>> 
>> We have a right to understand and respond to basic facts -
>> including the NEW version of LiveCode Create FAQ:
>> 
>> "Apps require active [LiveCode Create] licensing to run.
>> If your license lapses, your apps will no longer be licensed
>> and they will not continue to run."
>> 
>> https://livecode.com/faq
>> 
>> But several shills mistakenly try to suppress that,
>> hoping for personal benefit; they are the new freeloaders.
>> 
>> Even brown nosing here, by ...
>> trying to drive away paying users?
>> 
>> Yes - to shush and attack fully paying users who speak up
>> on points that would benefit all and LiveCode!
>> 
>> SMH.
>> 
>> Folks who want to pay their way have to look realistically -
>> Kill switch, legal blackholes, end user pricing flaws.
>> 
>> Not just me -
>> 
>> Riko Abadi:
>> 
>>> This means already-built apps are permanently dependent on ongoing
>>> license renewal just to execute... Under the current terms, LiveCode
>>> Create is not a viable option for serious, long-lived applications.
>> 
>> Rick:
>> 
>>> I sure hope the people at LC seriously reconsider what they are
>>> doing immediately and change course! Just my 2 cents for the day.
>>> P.S. Here’s the link for those who haven’t seen it:
>>> https://livecode.com/faq
>> 
>> But it's not worth a huge effort, or shill attacks, because ...
>> 
>> Bob Sneidar:
>>> There are other alternatives
>> 
>> Yes, there are!
>> Without legal blackholes and end user pricing headaches.
>> 
>> But why do shills quickly push loyal users away?
>> loyal users from HC, SC, to LC hate to move on without a word.
>> 
>> Window is closing to fix LiveCode pricing/terms issues.
>> People have been retooling elsewhere; no choice.
>> 
>> For me, audits/blank check and kill switch will not fly.
>> 
>> Not a personal, private 'hush' matter - flawed terms!
>> Read the LiveCode EULA and learn; legal blackhole.
>> 
>> https://livecode.com/eula
>> 
>> If shills and freeloaders decide, everyone loses...
>> Folks who wanted to pay their way will have to move on.
>> 
>> Folks who expected better/more honest will be disappointed.
>> Without them, who will pay the way?
>> 
>> 'Big fish' aren't blind.
>> 
>> I've donated my awareness effort in free public service here,
>> not easy typing, not for personal benefit or brown nosing,
>> with every chance of spiteful retaliation!
>> 
>> But I'm glad to speak up for the honest and realistic view.
>> That is what counts. Hope this requested advice improves LiveCode.
>> 
>> Bright future / happy new year...
>> Happy Holy-days of Christ's Mass!
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Curry Kenworthy
>> 
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