Individual licensing questions

Phil Smith pjsmith at pdtsoftware.com
Mon Jul 29 10:07:45 EDT 2024


Maybe I'm not reading ths right but does that not say that you want customers to pay for new features *before* they have been developed?  When I buy a product, I of course expect to have all the updates and platforms ready at that time.  

That's like saying that after I buy a new car, I have to start making additional payments to pay for new features on the next vehicle and hope they are ready when I buy it.

Really don't understand that statement.

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From: "Kevin Miller via use-livecode" <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
Sent: 7/29/24 7:27 AM
To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
Cc: Kevin Miller <kevin at livecode.com>
Subject: Re: Individual licensing questions

>From a general business point of view, the business model where someone buys an update every few years is not equitable. Customers expect you to have all the new features or new platform support ready when they arrive for their update, yet haven't paid for that to happen. Development costs continue steadily throughout that intervening period.

However for this particular historic use case, its not something we want to get in the way of. If those customers are still around in 3 years time when Classic support ends I'm sure we can figure something out for you if you contact us directly.

Kind regards,

Kevin

Kevin Miller ~ kevin at livecode.com <mailto:kevin at livecode.com> ~ http://www.livecode.com/ <http://www.livecode.com/>

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On 26/07/2024, 18:08, "use-livecode on behalf of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode" <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com> <mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com>> on behalf of use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>>> wrote:

I hope this is generic enough.

I have several clients who use apps I created just for them, 20 years ago

or more. Frequently these are converted HyperCard stacks like address books

or recipe files. The apps are personal and no one else uses them. Every 2

or 3 years they contact me because the app stops working, usually due to an

incompatible OS update. I recompile the app, and sometimes make a few

requested tweaks. Since a compile takes only a few minutes, and because I

know these people personally, I charge almost nothing for these services.

My last invoice for a rebuild and a minor change was $75.

I do not want to tell them that they will need to spend hundreds of dollars

more for a one time minor update. They will not want a subscription because

it's years between changes. And because they are not companies and many are

now retired, paying hundreds of dollars to maintain an address book is not

feasible. I am very sensitive to their budget requirements.

I'd like to propose a floor under which no royalty or subscription is

required. A minimum charge of, say, $500 would yield $25 to LC at the 5%

rate. A charge of $1000 would yield $50.

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On July 26, 2024 6:04:30 AM Kevin Miller via use-livecode

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