Livecode Future - End User Cost Extravaganza

Sean Cole sean at pidigital.co.uk
Mon Jul 29 03:28:33 EDT 2024


Seriously, Curry, you are so good at summing these things up.
It's what makes you such a great writer and consultant no doubt.
I hope you are heard through this mist.


On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 at 23:21, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Skip:
>
>  > Wow… just catching up on this thread ... more confused than ever!
>
> Yes; big licensing changes, huge threads with generic subject lines.
>
> Quick Recap with quotes from Buy and FAQ:
>
> - 2 main licensing models: 'Internal Users' and 'Apps for Sale.'
>
> - Apps for Sale:  developer seat(s) + '5% of Application Payments.'
> - (5% is not too painful/threatening, so those folks are not alarmed.)
>
> - But 'Internal Users' are hit harder! THAT is why people are upset...
> - 'Users includes app developers at the same cost as end users.'
> - Pretty radical and painful, setting off a fire without warning!
> - Now 'Volume discounts apply for 12 users or more' but still pricey.
>
> - LC seemed to downplay folks' concerns as edge cases and retro...
> - Obviously not; CEOs and IT managers, big and small firms, hobbyists.
> - (We have so much GENIUS and industry in this community!)
>
> Skip:
>
>  > I hope this all works out in the short term (and long term!)
>
> Exactly my thoughts! As a consultant/nice guy, I look out for EVERYONE:
> Big or small, app sales/internal, low code or code lover, new or old.
>
> They all matter; I don't want anyone (including LC) derailed by license.
>
> So let's find a fair, realistic solution for the 'Internal Users' folks!
> I disagree with conflating developers at the same cost as end users.
>
> Pay full price for developer seats...
> But address whatever (XYZ$) costs an arm/leg per end user!
>
> I assume that would be data hosting. And extra customer support?
> (Hopefully NOT subsidizing other LC licensing models.)
> So ... offer a BIG end-user discount for opting out of XYZ$. :)
>
> (I'm recuperating from a big, long round of Long COVID -
> Still tiring to type - but obviously an urgent situation for some,
> so I speak up to encourage a good solution for all LC developers.)
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Curry Kenworthy
>
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