Livecode Future

[Mike Kerner]

FWIW, i was thinking about an example of a competing product, and its
pricing.
here's xojo's "buy" url: https://xojo.com/store/
these are annual prices. it's actually a little less expensive than i would
have guessed, but it is what it is.

On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 12:05 PM Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Yes, it really is a shame what is happening. I understand that LiveCode
> has every right to monetize their product. I would be more than willing
> to donate a small amount on top of the license fee to support LiveCode.
> Working with something so similar to HyperCard is truly enjoyable, and
> the LiveCode community is fantastic. However, this significant increase
> in development costs is a major concern.
>
> There are free alternatives like Flutter (which supports both desktop
> and mobile development), Electron, NW.js, NeutralinoJS, and Lazarus (for
> desktop). Unfortunately, these tools use programming languages that are
> much less user-friendly than LiveCode, such as Dart, JavaScript, and
> Pascal. Additionally, with Electron and NeutralinoJS, you cannot hide
> the source code.
>
> Best regards,
> Heriberto
>
> On 7/26/24 11:53, Colin Kelly wrote:
> >
> > Hi Heriberto,
> >
> > I find myself in a very similar situation with 180+ employees the new
> > licensing modal is not suitable for the MSE space, at least, not for
> > our specific needs.
> > Such a shame that after 10 years of working with LC and being along
> > for the ride as the product **nearly** matures I too will have to
> > leave the LC community and seek alternatives…
> >
> > Col.
> >
> > *From: *use-livecode <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com> on behalf
> > of Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
> > *Date: *Friday, 26 July 2024 at 16:37
> > *To: *Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>
> > *Cc: *Heriberto Torrado <htorrado at networkdreams.net>
> > *Subject: *Re: Livecode Future
> >
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > Thank you very much for clarifying my question. Based on your response,
> > it's clear that LiveCode is not suitable for our needs.
> >
> > In my current role at the new company, I've developed several small
> > applications using LiveCode for internal use: a client onboarding form,
> > a workflow management app for our printers, and a folder encryption
> > tool. These are small utilities, and it wouldn't be feasible for each
> > user to pay $150 per app, resulting in $450 per employee.
> >
> > I previously purchased the Indy license and intended to buy a similar
> > one now. However, it seems I will need to find another solution.
> >
> > As you mentioned, the Mobile development license is not relevant for us
> > since I only develop desktop applications.
> >
> > Additionally, our strict security measures mean our firewalls won't
> > allow LiveCode applications to communicate externally.
> >
> > After 15 years of working with LiveCode, I've learned that relying on
> > programming languages  without a big community and free licensing can
> > lead to significant risks and potential loss of knowledge.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Heriberto
> >
> > On 7/26/24 11:07, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
> > > Yes each user who uses your app will require a seat license.
> > >
> > > Bob S
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jul 25, 2024, at 5:28 PM, Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode
> > <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I apologize for asking my questions again, but after carefully
> > reading the previous email, I am still a bit confused.
> > >
> > > My situation is as follows: I work as the IT Director at a company
> > in New York. Among many other responsibilities, I have developed
> > several apps for internal use by our employees. My question is
> > straightforward: With the new licensing model, does each employee need
> > to pay for a license? I am currently using the "Community" version,
> > but it does not work on Apple Silicon devices. Therefore, I am
> > considering purchasing a new license.
> > >
> > > Thank you for your assistance.
> > >
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