Livecode Future

[Kevin Miller]

No, only the revenue attributable to the app.

Kind regards, 

Kevin 

Kevin Miller ~ kevin at livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ 
LiveCode: Build Amazing Things 




On 24/07/2024, 18:09, "use-livecode on behalf of Riko Abadi via use-livecode" <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com> on behalf of use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>> wrote:


I have developed an Android application using LiveCode which I use for my
web hosting business. Customers can monitor their servers through the
Android app created with LiveCode. Do I have to pay 5% of my total web
hosting revenue? My backend is built with Golang, not a LiveCode server.






On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 11:52 PM Kevin Miller via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>> wrote:


> Thanks for sharing this Tom, really appreciate it.
>
> Just one point. When you get to $1M in revenue your payments are half what
> you suggest I,e. $25K as the percentage steadily drops as your revenue
> increases. You can see an example PDF table in the FAQ under "How much are
> Application Payments?".
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Kevin
>
> Kevin Miller ~ kevin at livecode.com <mailto:kevin at livecode.com> ~ http://www.livecode.com/ <http://www.livecode.com/>
> LiveCode: Build Amazing Things
>
>
>
>
> On 24/07/2024, 17:08, "use-livecode on behalf of Tom Glod via
> use-livecode" <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com> <mailto:
> use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com>> on behalf of
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>>>
> wrote:
>
>
> I want to add a couple of points about my own case / stance.
>
>
> I have been with Livecode for about 11 years.
> While I have not yet shipped a whole lot ...yet
> I took all this time to work on my skills and to build tooling for myself
> so that I can create small niche products extremely quickly and also large
> products at a quick pace as well.
>
>
> So in a very real sense I've been building income potential.
> Income potential, which I will be joyfully executing on for the next decade
> plus, with many different products.
> I've spent MAYBE $3 or 4K on Livecode over those years (because I used the
> community to build.)
>
>
> So in my case, to me, I really have received much value from Livecode, as
> Kevin said in the video.
>
>
> To me, Livecode is asking, ...Tom, can you pay us 50k to make $1 million?
> And they are promising an increasingly better platform in exchange, and
> faster updates.
> That leaves $950k for me, my family and my business.
>
>
> I cannot speak on behalf of anyone else, and clearly for some this really
> sucks.
> I'm sorry for that and in no way am I saying that this is easy.
>
>
> Thanks for listening
>
>
> Tom
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 10:55 AM Kevin Miller via use-livecode <
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>>>
> wrote:
>
>
> > Included or not, your company is paying for the platform as a whole, per
> > user, per month and some of that revenue will be going to Power Apps.
> >
> >
> >
> > The fact that you aren’t specifically choosing to subscribe to it is very
> > disappointing. I won’t get into a whole argument here but that strikes me
> > as monopolistic. Microsoft have been in trouble for this sort of thing in
> > the past. Unfortunately we won’t have time to wait for some sort of
> > antitrust case to catch up.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> >
> > Kevin Miller ~ kevin at livecode.com <mailto:kevin at livecode.com> <mailto:kevin at livecode.com <mailto:kevin at livecode.com>> ~
> http://www.livecode.com/ <http://www.livecode.com/> <http://www.livecode.com/> <http://www.livecode.com/>>
> >
> > LiveCode: Build Amazing Things
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Colin Kelly <ckelly5430 at gmail.com <mailto:ckelly5430 at gmail.com> <mailto:ckelly5430 at gmail.com <mailto:ckelly5430 at gmail.com>>>
> > Date: Wednesday 24 July 2024 at 15:35
> > To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> <mailto:
> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>>>
> > Cc: Kevin Miller <kevin at livecode.com <mailto:kevin at livecode.com> <mailto:kevin at livecode.com <mailto:kevin at livecode.com>>>
> > Subject: Re: Livecode Future
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Kevin,
> >
> >
> >
> > I see your argument but disagree with your premise, We don’t buy MS o365
> > Business standard license for our users SO we can deploy PowerApps, we
> > subscribe to 0365 for our users so they have access to business
> > applications like Excel, Word, Outlook, Teams etc. the ability to deploy
> > developed PowerApps to our users is a benefit of Microsoft’s licensing
> that
> > we would already be using so not an additional cost
> >
> > MS O365 is pretty much a standard across all business sectors.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
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