Livecode Future

[Tim Selander]

Yes, this is quite important to me as well.

Thanks,
Tim Selander


On 2024/07/24 19:14, Tweedly via use-livecode wrote:
> Can you say anything about the future of LiveCode Server  ?
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> Thanks,
> Alex
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> Sent from my iPad
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>> On 24 Jul 2024, at 10:03, Kevin Miller via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
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>> I'm sorry to hear this. You'll still gain access to anything that remains to be delivered from crowd funding.
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>> I do want to dig into the economics of this a little more though. At a quantity of 180 users, PowerApps costs roughly 33% more per seat than we do! LiveCode, even *without* the (up to 10x) development speed increase Create is bringing, is so much more productive than PowerApps (you told us this yourself for your own use case). So its 33% cheaper, and massively faster... Sounds reasonable to me?
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>> Kind regards,
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>> Kevin
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>> Kevin Miller ~ kevin at livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/
>> LiveCode: Build Amazing Things
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>> On 24/07/2024, 09:17, "use-livecode on behalf of Col Kelly via use-livecode" <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com> on behalf of use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
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>> Totally agree and find myself in the same position with 180+/- internal workers, we only use LC for rapid prototyping although we do have some utilities that were built with LC.
>> I guess I’m going to be forced down the PowerApps route.
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>> Slightly annoyed that i’ve subscribed and been part of all the crowdfunded projects that never materialised or are still in dev.
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>> Col.
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>> Sent from my iPhone.
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>>> On 24 Jul 2024, at 01:01, Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
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>>> Hi Tom,
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>>> It appears that under this licensing model, developers creating applications for internal company use—such as for a workforce of 100 employees—would still need to pay $15,520 even with the 30% discount applied. I hope I've misunderstood, but upon receiving the email about Livecode Create, I considered purchasing a license to permanently move away from the outdated "Community" version (we have a lot of silicon Macs). However, if I have to explain to my boss that each internal user of the Livecode-built app would cost $155.2, she would likely suggest investing that money in a Flutter course, Lazarus IDE or to develop a web site.
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>>> Hery
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>>>>> On 7/23/24 18:32, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> I'll start.
>>>> After reviewing Livecode's new direction and offer.
>>>> I feel very positive about this change.
>>>> Maybe in the future I will feel differently, but currently, as a solo dev,
>>>> even 2 or 3 devs, as I expand, it all is kind of in the range of reasonable.
>>>> The <= 5% tax hurts a bit, but its manageable.
>>>> If this is a model that creates better sustainability and faster dev
>>>> cycles for Livecode, and if thats really true ...
>>>> Then I want to be in full support of this model.
>>>>
>>>> I was somewhat surprised (sorry honest) at how well the new direction was
>>>> explained. Great job on that.
>>>> I like the no-pressure offer. 2027 is a lot of heads up for people to
>>>> align their business model or to get off the platform.
>>>> I like the flexibility of the offer for different kinds of devs
>>>>
>>>> Of course my review is based on my own situation and my own plans for the
>>>> future of my company MakeShyft.
>>>> I also work @ Canela, which is a hat I am not wearing at this moment.
>>>> Everyone's situation is different, and I can see some users not loving this
>>>> at all.
>>>>
>>>> All the best, may we all prosper and have our dreams come true.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
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