Livecode Future

Tweedly alex at tweedly.net
Wed Jul 24 06:14:44 EDT 2024


Can you say anything about the future of LiveCode Server  ?

Thanks,
Alex 

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> On 24 Jul 2024, at 10:03, Kevin Miller via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
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> I'm sorry to hear this. You'll still gain access to anything that remains to be delivered from crowd funding.
> 
> I do want to dig into the economics of this a little more though. At a quantity of 180 users, PowerApps costs roughly 33% more per seat than we do! LiveCode, even *without* the (up to 10x) development speed increase Create is bringing, is so much more productive than PowerApps (you told us this yourself for your own use case). So its 33% cheaper, and massively faster... Sounds reasonable to me?
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> Kind regards, 
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> Kevin
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> Kevin Miller ~ kevin at livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ 
> LiveCode: Build Amazing Things 
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> On 24/07/2024, 09:17, "use-livecode on behalf of Col Kelly via use-livecode" <use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode-bounces at lists.runrev.com> on behalf of use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
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> Totally agree and find myself in the same position with 180+/- internal workers, we only use LC for rapid prototyping although we do have some utilities that were built with LC.
> I guess I’m going to be forced down the PowerApps route. 
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> 
> Slightly annoyed that i’ve subscribed and been part of all the crowdfunded projects that never materialised or are still in dev. 
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> 
> Col. 
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> Sent from my iPhone. 
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>> On 24 Jul 2024, at 01:01, Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
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>> Hi Tom,
>> 
>> It appears that under this licensing model, developers creating applications for internal company use—such as for a workforce of 100 employees—would still need to pay $15,520 even with the 30% discount applied. I hope I've misunderstood, but upon receiving the email about Livecode Create, I considered purchasing a license to permanently move away from the outdated "Community" version (we have a lot of silicon Macs). However, if I have to explain to my boss that each internal user of the Livecode-built app would cost $155.2, she would likely suggest investing that money in a Flutter course, Lazarus IDE or to develop a web site.
>> 
>> Hery
>> 
>>>> On 7/23/24 18:32, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> I'll start.
>>> After reviewing Livecode's new direction and offer.
>>> I feel very positive about this change.
>>> Maybe in the future I will feel differently, but currently, as a solo dev,
>>> even 2 or 3 devs, as I expand, it all is kind of in the range of reasonable.
>>> The <= 5% tax hurts a bit, but its manageable.
>>> If this is a model that creates better sustainability and faster dev
>>> cycles for Livecode, and if thats really true ...
>>> Then I want to be in full support of this model.
>>> 
>>> I was somewhat surprised (sorry honest) at how well the new direction was
>>> explained. Great job on that.
>>> I like the no-pressure offer. 2027 is a lot of heads up for people to
>>> align their business model or to get off the platform.
>>> I like the flexibility of the offer for different kinds of devs
>>> 
>>> Of course my review is based on my own situation and my own plans for the
>>> future of my company MakeShyft.
>>> I also work @ Canela, which is a hat I am not wearing at this moment.
>>> Everyone's situation is different, and I can see some users not loving this
>>> at all.
>>> 
>>> All the best, may we all prosper and have our dreams come true.
>>> 
>>> Tom
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