sideloading updates to mobile

Thu Feb 29 17:32:33 EST 2024

ah. that's a better way of handling this. i was going to have the app check
the documents folder for updates, before loading a stack, but if i keep the
source stacks, there, it will work better.

On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 3:10 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> You can't add or change anything inside the app bundle so downloaded files
> have to go in specialFolderPath("documents"). Copy the originals from the
> resources folder to the documents folder on first launch so you always
> have
> a known file path location. Any file in documents will be overwritten with
> the new download if the file name is the same.
>
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> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> On February 29, 2024 7:31:28 AM Mike Kerner via use-livecode
> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > i haven't tried deploying to a device, yet, so bear with me:
> > when you load the updated stack/behavior/etc., are you saving it into the
> > app bundle, or elsewhere? on locked/single-app devices, persistence is
> the
> > thing (but i would imagine that it works the same on single-app devices
> as
> > it does for normal ones).
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 10:12 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Revert this stack". That just means "reload from disk". Or you can
> >> specify
> >> a different stack.
> >> --
> >> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com
> >> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> >> On February 28, 2024 8:12:57 PM Mike Kerner via use-livecode
> >> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > so, how do we force LC to reload the stack?
> >> > i can force the script to reload, and replace it, but if i want to
> reload
> >> > the stack, do i have to close it, replace it, and then open it?
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 8:28 PM Mike Kerner <
> MikeKerner at roadrunner.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> thanks, jlg. that's kind-of what i was thinking.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 4:58 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
> >> >> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> I've done this for several mobile apps. As long as the updates only
> >> >>> reside
> >> >>> in the app's sandboxed container, even the App Store doesn't care.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Basically, I put a short text file on the server listing the update
> >> >>> version(s) of the file(s), one per line if they are all different.
> >> Every
> >> >>> stack in the app suite has a custom property named cVersion. If
> >> necessary
> >> >>> you can also add the download URL to the same line. On launch, the
> app
> >> >>> downloads and parses the text to see if the server version is
> different
> >> >>> from the installed one. If so, it uses "put URL <serverPath> into
> URL
> >> >>> <docs
> >> >>> path>" to download and save the the updates to the mobile documents
> >> >>> folder,
> >> >>> overwriting the old ones.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It's pretty simple, if I understand what you need correctly. I also
> >> store
> >> >>> other info in the the text file occasionally, such as a text string
> >> >>> describing the updates so I can show an answer dialog if I want the
> >> user
> >> >>> to
> >> >>> agree or decline the update (which will reappear on the next launch
> if
> >> >>> they
> >> >>> decline.)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Sample text file is usually something like this:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>    Stack 1 <tab> https://www.domain.com/updates/stack1.livecode
> >> >>>    Stack 2 <tab> https://www.domain.com/updates/stack2.livecode
> >> >>>    ..
> >> >>>    This update provides new functionality and bug fixes.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If you don't want to scan each stack for its cVersion, you can keep
> a
> >> >>> text
> >> >>> file in the mobile documents folder that lists the current versions
> so
> >> >>> you
> >> >>> can easily compare that to the one on the server. After updating the
> >> >>> stacks, update the stored text file as well.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If updates are mandatory, just skip the comparisons entirely and
> >> >>> force-download the updates. If only some of the stacks should be
> >> updated,
> >> >>> omit the ones that don't need to be updated from the server file.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com
> >> >>> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> >> >>> On February 21, 2024 12:53:25 PM Mike Kerner via use-livecode
> >> >>> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> > right - no updating the engine + runtime in this scenario, just
> the
> >> >>> > stacks + scripts, and perhaps plugins.
> >> >>> > we are going to continue to only privately distribute to our
> >> corporate
> >> >>> > clients, so the app store won't be part of the equation. that does
> >> not
> >> >>> mean
> >> >>> > that apple won't object, though (but, i believe the rules for
> >> privately
> >> >>> > distributed apps are much more lenient than for app store apps -
> at
> >> >>> least,
> >> >>> > they have been for us, up until now)
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 12:53 PM Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
> >> >>> > use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >> Hi Mike,
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> > Am 21.02.2024 um 18:47 schrieb Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
> >> >>> >> use-livecode at lists.runrev.com>:
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > sorry that i was not clear. we've been using private deploys
> since
> >> >>> around
> >> >>> >> > 2010, using airlaunch to generate the bundle, and then
> uploading
> >> to a
> >> >>> >> > private url. that's not what i meant.
> >> >>> >> > i'm talking about updating/patching an existing app, in place.
> the
> >> >>> >> devices
> >> >>> >> > are in single-app mode, so we would either have to pay for mdm
> and
> >> >>> then
> >> >>> >> use
> >> >>> >> > that service to push app updates, OR, if we didn't use mdm, we
> >> could
> >> >>> have
> >> >>> >> > the app pull the update and apply it.
> >> >>> >> > i can kind-of guess how to make it work, but i'm sure there
> are a
> >> >>> couple
> >> >>> >> of
> >> >>> >> > tricks that i don't want to have to figure out, if someone else
> >> has
> >> >>> >> already
> >> >>> >> > figured it out.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> you could use the "splashscreen" approach to update one or more
> >> stacks,
> >> >>> >> but that will
> >> >>> >> of course only work if you do not want to update the actual
> >> >>> engine/runtime.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> However I'm not sure if Apple will allow this, no problem on
> Android
> >> >>> >> however.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Best
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Klaus
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> --
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> >> >>> >> klaus at major-k.de
> >> >>> >>
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On the second day, God created the oceans.
On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours,
   and did a little diving.
And God said, "This is good."