Divide Large Data Blob?

Bob Sneidar bobsneidar at iotecdigital.com
Mon May 16 19:53:32 EDT 2022


OK so it appears there is a log2 property. The log2 of 1000 yields 9.965784 so I suppsoe if you round up, that would give you the maximum number of iterations to isolate a single line in a 1000 line sorted list. 

Bob S


> On May 16, 2022, at 15:44 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> So this has got me thinking. Apparently what I am calling Divide and Conquer is really called a binary sort. I have looked up on the interwebs to calculate the maximum number of iterations for a given number of values, but it seems that all the formulas offered up use functions for C. I am trying to figure out what a basic math formula for this is, given n values. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
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>> On May 16, 2022, at 15:23 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
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>> A maximum of 7 recursions are necessary to isolate a single instance of 100 possible values. 1000 requires a maximum of 10. 10000 values requires 14. The idea is that for every factor of 10, you need roughly 3 more recursions. This of course assumes the data is sorted, which in your case is sorted into 3 containers. If you know the limits of how many lines can be garbage, and how many can be valid data, you narrow your scope significantly. 
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>> Livecode is pretty damn quick at parsing this kind of data. If there are consistent delimiters (in this case a line break) then even 20 or 30 recursions is child's play. 
>> 
>> Bob S
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>>> On May 16, 2022, at 15:00 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
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>>> Do you know exactly which lines you need to toss, or do you need to searc the data to find out where the beginning and end of the useful data is? 
>>> If the former, then just put line x to y of your data into a new variable. If the latter, then a divide and conquer approach might be the answer. Get the line 30% in, test for valid, get the line 40% in, test, then 35% then 32.5% or 37.5% depending on your test. 
>>> 
>>> You may only have to do this a dozen or so times to find the exact line where your valid data begins. 
>>> 
>>> The other way of course is to get it all into a SQL database (how did you all know I was going to say that??) The downside is that you have to iterate through all your data once. The upside is a good one liner query statement may be all you need to process your data. And if you need to make multiple passes at your data, all the better. 
>>> 
>>> Bob S
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>>>> On May 16, 2022, at 10:46 , Rick Harrison via use-livecode <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have a large chunk of data that I want to
>>>> search as quickly as possible.  
>>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately the part I want to search is the 
>>>> middle third of the data.  The other thirds at 
>>>> the beginning and at the end are just junk and 
>>>> slow down my search so I want to get rid of them.
>>>> 
>>>> I don’t want to search line by line as that
>>>> takes way too long.
>>>> 
>>>> There’s no unique character dividing any
>>>> of these data regions.
>>>> 
>>>> What’s the best way to do this?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>> 
>>>> Rick
>>>> 
>>>> 
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